Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Convenient: IRS Has 'Lost' Two Years of Lois Lerner's Emails
Town Hall ^ | Jun 13, 2014 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 06/13/2014 4:15:59 PM PDT by Red Steel

According to the House Ways and Means Committee, the IRS has "lost" two years of emails belonging to former head of tax exempt organizations Lois Lerner. The IRS doesn't have a record of her emails to outside groups or government agencies from January 2009 through April 2011, conveniently encompassing some of the same time when tea party groups were being targeted for extra scrutiny and possible criminal prosecution. The IRS says the loss of emails is due to a "computer crash" and claims emails from or to Lerner from the White House, Democratic members of Congress, the Treasury Department, FEC and Department of Justice cannot be located. They do however have emails belonging to Lerner that she sent to other IRS employees.

“The fact that I am just learning about this, over a year into the investigation, is completely unacceptable and now calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response to Congressional inquiries. There needs to be an immediate investigation and forensic audit by Department of Justice as well as the Inspector General," Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp said in a statement. “Just a short time ago, Commissioner Koskinen promised to produce all Lerner documents. It appears now that was an empty promise. Frankly, these are the critical years of the targeting of conservative groups that could explain who knew what when, and what, if any, coordination there was between agencies. Instead, because of this loss of documents, we are conveniently left to believe that Lois Lerner acted alone. This failure of the IRS requires the White House, which promised to get to the bottom of this, to do an Administration-wide search and production of any emails to or from Lois Lerner. The Administration has repeatedly referred us back to the IRS for production of materials. It is clear that is wholly insufficient when it comes to determining the full scope of the violation of taxpayer rights.”

Emails belonging to Lerner that were not "lost" have shown that she was in contact with Democratic members of Congress and the Department of Justice about prosecuting tea party groups. Just this week, emails surfaced showing Lerner sent confidential tax information belonging to conservative groups to the FBI for investigation just before the 2010 midterm elections.

According to Camp, this is the first time the IRS has disclosed the loss of emails since the investigation into IRS targeting of conservatives started more than a year ago.

Camp: Learning about this over a year into the investigation is unacceptable & calls into question the credibility of the IRS’s response — Ways and Means (@WaysandMeansGOP) June 13, 2014

UPDATE: Chairman of the House Oversight Committee Darrell Issa responds:

“Isn’t it convenient for the Obama Administration that the IRS now says it has suddenly realized it lost Lois Lerner’s emails requested by Congress and promised by Commissioner John Koskinen? Do they really expect the American people to believe that, after having withheld these emails for a year, they're just now realizing the most critical time period is missing? Congressional oversight has revealed that the IRS has –potentially illegally– shared confidential taxpayer information with the FBI and lost crucial email records even as the agency continues to withhold information by not fully complying with the Committee’s subpoena. Left to the IRS’ own preferences, the White House would still be retelling the lie that this was all about mismanagement confined to a local office. The supposed loss of Lerner’s emails further blows a hole in the credibility of claims that the IRS is complying with Congressional requests and their repeated assurances that they’re working to get to the truth. If there wasn't nefarious conduct that went much higher than Lois Lerner in the IRS targeting scandal, why are they playing these games?"

This post has been updated.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: coverup; criminalconspiracy; criminals; destroyedevidence; gettherope; impeachnow; impeachobama; irs; irsscandals; irsteapartyscandal; lerner; lerneremails; liars; loislerner; obama; smidgen
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-80 last
To: Red Steel
What a load of crap. I work at NASA. Our computers are backed up EVERY NIGHT. Our email servers are CONSTATNLY backed up. It is a GOA requirement of ALL government computers.

This case needs an independent counsel in the worst way. These criminals need the actual THREAT of criminal prosecution for perjury and obstruction of justice in order to make them divulge the truth.

51 posted on 06/13/2014 5:26:50 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

BS. We know that the NSA has to have it.


52 posted on 06/13/2014 5:27:12 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jaxter
Now did the White House, Democratic members of Congress, the Treasury Department, FEC and Department of Justice also experience a "computer crash"?

There were senders and there were recipients. In order for the emails to be "lost", servers on both ends of the communications would have to have crashed simultaneously - for two years.

Seems like someone in IT would have noticed. But given the dearth of IT specialists in DC, maybe not.

53 posted on 06/13/2014 5:28:29 PM PDT by randita
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Bryan24

For some odd reason, I don’t hear ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN screaming for answers....


54 posted on 06/13/2014 5:28:54 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel
"The dog ate my homework!": POSSIBLE

"IRS Has 'Lost' Two Years of Lois Lerner's Emails": IMPOSSIBLE

55 posted on 06/13/2014 5:30:32 PM PDT by TChad (The Obamacare motto: Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

There’s not even a smidgen of email from that period?


56 posted on 06/13/2014 5:32:20 PM PDT by glorgau
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

Imagine if something like this happened with a Republican in the Whitehouse. What would the liberals demand? Figure that out and do it to them.


57 posted on 06/13/2014 5:32:29 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: William of Barsoom
This is criminal.

Yep, and I'm sure Holder's FBI will get right on it (to cover up any loose ends, that is.)

58 posted on 06/13/2014 5:32:29 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: randita

“...given the dearth of IT specialists in DC...”

They were all busy working on the 0bammacare website.


59 posted on 06/13/2014 5:47:24 PM PDT by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

TREY GOWDY BETTER POUNCE NOW!!!!!!


60 posted on 06/13/2014 5:48:20 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Red Steel, related:

THE TWO-YEAR GAP (Poor Nixon, his gap was only 18.5 minutes)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3167483/posts

The Mysterious Disappearance of the Lerner Emails
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3167513/posts


61 posted on 06/13/2014 5:55:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

Fletcher: Your honor, I object!

Judge Stevens: And why is that, Mr. Reede?

Fletcher: It’s devastating to my case!

Judge Stevens: Overruled.

Fletcher: Good call!

If only 1/64th of what has happened under Obama had happened under a Republican president, the main stream media: TV news/shows, magazines, e-zines and newspapers, etc., would either be in the middle of a coordinated campaign demanding his resignation, or he would have resigned by now after having been approached by a committee of “concerned Republicrats” e.g McCain, Linseed, Bonehead, Cantor, all the other GOP-e beloved by the left, et al.


62 posted on 06/13/2014 5:57:09 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel
Kindest explanation - the IRS is incompetent.
Most egregious explanation - the IRS is lying.


It doesn't end well if you can neither trust nor have confidence in your government.

63 posted on 06/13/2014 6:03:26 PM PDT by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingattax

“screw the emails. ABOLISH THE IRS”

For the 2015 budget, tell the administration that the IRS will not be funded until the emails show up. Do the same thing with the EPA.


64 posted on 06/13/2014 6:37:19 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: upchuck
Lois Lerner needs a 20 year prison term which will be conveniently pardoned by nobamascum.

Unfortunately, she will walk, along with all the criminals in government. No one will ever e held accountable for anything. I wish it were different, but I have zero confidence that the Pubbies will do anything about anything.

65 posted on 06/13/2014 6:40:21 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Peter W. Kessler
"Yeah, that'll work."

But I wil look really, really stern and I will say stern things. That will make everything better.

66 posted on 06/13/2014 6:42:01 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: MeganC
"Subpoena the back-up tapes from Iron Mountain."

All gone I am sad to say. We have just discovered that the mountain is magnetic and it has destroyed everything. Everything!

67 posted on 06/13/2014 6:45:34 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: MeganC

‘Subpoena the back-up tapes from Iron Mountain’

Is Iron Mountain where the NSA operates out of? If so you know they have copies.

Subpoena everybody whose name you can spell and drag em all in. Enuff of this cowardly BS.


68 posted on 06/13/2014 6:56:48 PM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Mark17

>> but I have zero confidence that the Pubbies will do anything about anything.

But we have to vote for them, right?


69 posted on 06/13/2014 7:12:33 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: NormsRevenge

You are 1,000% correct.


70 posted on 06/13/2014 7:16:27 PM PDT by Steel Shoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: cripplecreek

Amazing arrogance by the IRS guy.

But you are correct, they are all on archival drives, not on an individual computer.


71 posted on 06/13/2014 7:31:46 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

Fine. Subpoena all email from WH personnel to Lerner or her underlings.


72 posted on 06/13/2014 7:38:06 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ray76
But we have to vote for them, right?

I don't know what the answer is. If we could get real conservatives in there, instead of RINOs, it might change. I would like to see people who are militantly confrontational with the Media as well. I remember, a few weeks ago, some Pubbies were being interviewed by a liberal. One of the Pubbies just got up and walked out, after a few choice words. I wish more would jump dead in their shit, like he did.

73 posted on 06/13/2014 8:06:34 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Vet 70-71 Msgt US Air Force, retired)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: Mark17

Well I was being sarcastic. Sorry, it wasn’t really directed at you.

I’m am disgusted with the Republicans.

The entire political class is so so vastly distant from the will of the people, and working to harm them, that they all must be swept away.

They’re talking to each other, not us, and posturing and believing each others’ BS - believing their own BS - and pursuing these illegal insane strategies that are destroying the country, still they glide on merrily oblivious. This is the kind version.

The version I think is more likely is that there is a core of evil who controls the rest.

Either way - they gotta go.


74 posted on 06/13/2014 8:22:17 PM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party ...or else it's more of the same...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

Ironic - perhaps they suffer from the same malady the geniuses at the NSA suffer from and can’t stop the system (that they control down to the electron level) from deleting data that might be harmful to them....


75 posted on 06/14/2014 3:15:14 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel

” IRS Has ‘Lost’ Two Years of Lois Lerner’s Emails”?
Horse crap.
Lying liars the lot of em and they all belong in jail or hung from the nearest lamp post.


76 posted on 06/14/2014 5:27:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WMarshal; All
I work in IT. this is impossible gig backups and considering the NSA is capturing everything.

I think Steve Stockman (R-TX) has the same idea.

The Clever Way GOP Congressman Is Pushing Back After IRS Claims Lois Lerner Emails Were ‘Erased by a Glitch’

FReegards!

 photo million-vet-march.jpg

77 posted on 06/14/2014 8:47:06 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel; GeronL

Check with the Homeland Security database of American emails...


78 posted on 06/14/2014 3:48:50 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red Steel
IT Experts Call BS On IRS Claim To Have Lost Lois Lerner Emails
79 posted on 06/15/2014 2:17:58 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: a fool in paradise

Sure they did. How convenient


80 posted on 06/15/2014 2:48:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-5051-80 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson