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Creation Conversion: The Turning Point (Spike Psarris)
Institute for Creation Research ^ | June 2014 | ICR staff

Posted on 06/19/2014 8:22:04 AM PDT by fishtank

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To: OldNavyVet

From my creation.com link in prior post:

How long has the moon been receding?

Friction by the tides is slowing the earth’s rotation, so the length of a day is increasing by 0.002 seconds per century. This means that the earth is losing angular momentum.7 The Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum says that the angular momentum the earth loses must be gained by the moon. Thus the moon is slowly receding from Earth at about 4 cm (1½ inches) per year, and the rate would have been greater in the past. The moon could never have been closer than 18,400 km (11,500 miles), known as the Roche Limit, because Earth’s tidal forces (i.e., the result of different gravitational forces on different parts of the moon) would have shattered it. But even if the moon had started receding from being in contact with the earth, it would have taken only 1.37 billion years to reach its present distance.8 NB: this is the maximum possible age—far too young for evolution (and much younger than the radiometric ‘dates’ assigned to moon rocks)—not the actual age.

The other 2 articles also were both less than 1 billion years, 100 million and 800 million respectively.

For my money, I’ll rest w/ God’s Biblical statements and say actually only 6 thousand years old and quite likely the volcanic activity followed from Noah’s flood and Earth remnants from the fountains of the great deep hitting the moon. ymmv. :’)

Center for Scientific Creation - In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/IntheBeginningTOC.html


21 posted on 06/19/2014 10:59:59 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels

No, my statements make perfect sense. Astrophysics theory says that planets capture passing celestial objects by the law of mutual gravitational attraction. Yet, besides the moon, all objects in earth orbit are artificial satellites, i.e. no captured asteroids are in orbit. They either pass by or crash into the earth because the probability of them passing at just the right speed, distance, and angle to be captured into permanent earth orbit is essentially zero.


22 posted on 06/19/2014 11:03:24 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

OK, sorry it appears I misunderstood your statements.

By the same token did you misunderstand the author?

Meanwhile, I was taking some graduate-level physics classes. I started to notice more and more incompatibilities between physics and my evolutionary beliefs. For example, in an astrodynamics class we modeled orbital insertions (where one object gets gravitationally captured and goes into orbit around another). This requires precise maneuvering and the shedding of a lot of energy—our spacecraft can enter orbits around other planets only because they have thrusters, and thus can steer and brake. But objects like asteroids lack this ability, so they’re extremely unlikely to be captured gravitationally into stable orbits around other objects.


23 posted on 06/19/2014 11:20:28 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: BrandtMichaels
"2 links regarding lunar volcanic activity:"

From your second link:

"The researchers hint that they may also be volcanic in origin."

"Without further studies it’s difficult to determine the exact origin and ages of these lunar formations."

Read more: http://www.universetoday.com/94583/scientists-suggest-evidence-of-recent-lunar-volcanism/#ixzz357AraZzK

24 posted on 06/19/2014 12:24:35 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: BrandtMichaels
For my money, I’ll rest w/ God’s Biblical statements and say actually only 6 thousand years old

Thank you for your research findings, but ... one thing I learned in my engineering years is that beliefs belong in church.

25 posted on 06/19/2014 12:40:07 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: fishtank



Check-out this book ... IT's THE BEST ...

In The Beginning -- Walt Brown, PhD" - (click)



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26 posted on 06/19/2014 5:20:27 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: OldNavyVet

Then you should realize some common sense from your engineering years that the 4 thermodynamic laws supercede and override any and all evolutionary claims with the lone possible exception of natural selection. If you really start thinking about deep-time from an Occam’s razor point-of-view you’ll also see just how many natural clocks indicate short ages in thousands of years rather than millions and billions and how impossible long ages are too. Mostly though you’d need to see how willingly scientists are just plain wrong [i.e. global warming is just the tip of the iceberg].

Also code does not write itself. Just the fact that you can converse with others of your kind in so many ways and on so many levels indicates pre-programmed skills provided to mankind from a higher intelligence. But if that’s not convincing enough for you, just start analyzing the DNA genetic code and see if that does not also indicate programming at an even higher intelligence level. My God even provided most all of the lower life forms skills that still make mankind envious to be able to re-produce [i.e. the dolphins sonar or the bird and insects navigation abilities].

Mankind merely copies and mimics intelligence and knowledge derived from all the creative power in the entire universe from a single source - the Great I Am.

Or wait until your death to be reconciled to these obvious facts and left stammering for why you chose zero accountability to the one true God and full accountability for your sins.


27 posted on 06/20/2014 7:01:05 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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To: OldNavyVet

Also there are plenty of false beliefs both inside and outside of the church.

Just read the Bible if you desire to find the one source of absolute truth.

For even God said ‘The only true religion is one that takes care of widows and orphans AND is not corrupted by this world’ = there is no true religion, bub, just faith = imputed righteousness from the one and only True Redeemer of man’s soul, Jesus Christ.


28 posted on 06/20/2014 7:08:12 AM PDT by BrandtMichaels
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"Juat read the Bible if you desire to find the one source of absolutes" ...

I prefer Ayn Rand's litany about absolutes.

Reality is an absolute, existence is an absolute, a speck of dust is an absolute and so is a human life. Whether you live or die is an absolute. Whether you have a piece of bread or not, is an absolute. Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter’s stomach, is an absolute.

Paraphrasing Ayn Rand, twisting your acceptance of supernatural absolutes has forced you to reject the absolute of nature.

29 posted on 06/22/2014 1:27:40 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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