Skip to comments.IRS CANCELLED Contract with Email-Storage Firm Weeks After Lernerís Computer Crash
Posted on 06/22/2014 7:39:52 AM PDT by RummyChick
The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) cancelled its longtime relationship with an email-storage contractor just weeks after ex-IRS official Lois Lerners computer crashed and shortly before other IRS officials computers allegedly crashed.
The IRS signed a contract with Sonasoft, an email-archiving company based in San Jose, California, each year from 2005 to 2010. The company, which partners with Microsoft and counts The New York Times among its clients, claims in its company slogans that it provides Email Archiving Done Right and Point-Click Recovery. Sonasoft in 2009 tweeted, If the IRS uses Sonasoft products to backup their servers why wouldnt you choose them to protect your severs?
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Terry Milholland?? Good Grief.
“No the public isnt stupid...there is a law requiring paper copies for back up for agencies like the IRS.
AND how long do they have to keep those paper copies?”
How long? isn’t it at least seven years?
Like the rest of us have to keep records?
(class action lawsuit time?
injured party: All taxpayers
injury done: not keeping records)
Agreed. It was pointless to even fool with him. Issa just needs to start subpoenaing every source that might have those emails.
got a live link???
“Hey, along with the back-ups.....
How about checking Lois Lerners E-mail Recipients Inboxes??
Why is no one saying this? Hummm??”
yep, I betcha there were more than just six other recipients.
Look at this way, if the other six who “lost” their emails did it on purpose in conjuction with Lerner, then isn’t that a conspiracy?
And wouldn’t a RICO lawsuit be applicable?
Racketeering In Criminal Organization indeed!
What are the Risks of Poor Management of Records?
Increased difficulty or inability to complete your work and meet your responsibilities
Difficulties in fulfilling FOIA or litigation requests
Criminal or civil penalties, fines and/or imprisonment for:
The unlawful removal or destruction of federal records (18 U.S.C. 2071)
The unlawful disclosure of national security information (18 U.S.C. 793,794,& 798)
The improper handling of records containing other information exempt under the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C.552), the Privacy Act (5 U.S.C. 552a), and other information to which access is restricted by law.
Documents agreements reached in meetings, telephone conversations, or other Email exchanges on substantive matters relating to business processes or activities
Provides comments on or objections to the language on drafts of policy statements or action plans
Supplements information in official files and/or adds to a complete understanding of office operations and responsibilities
Will be needed by you or your successor in carrying out your responsibilities
If you determine that an E-mail is a record, it must be filed appropriately. Unless your component has approved procedures for electronic retention of E-mail, you must print the E-mail message and file/store it in accordance with DOJs overall policies and guidance.
More layers to this rotting onion than anyone suspected, IMO.
And, another example of Zero’s opaque transparency.
thanks for posting this!
all y’all, ping to this topic!
also see #36:
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Rose Firm Aides Shredded Foster Papers:
Probe: Courier says he, roommate were told to destroy items. Lawyers say documents were unrelated to Whitewater inquiry.
Two years later:
The Whitewater Lost And Found Records
Source: PBS Frontline Transcripts
January 30, 1996
Correspondent: Chris Bury
Anchor: Ted Koppel
Announcer: January 30th, 1996.
TED KOPPEL (VO): The accusation? Obstruction of justice, knowingly withholding subpoenaed documents. The location? A book room on the third floor of the White House, a room in the first family's private quarters. One clue? A White House log handed over today with the names of all the people who might have had access - from Mrs Clinton's chief of staff, to Chelsea Clinton's friends, to dignitaries visiting the President. Tonight, the mystery of the lost and found records.
Let's not forget tax cheat extraordinaire Cheatin' Charlie Rangel:
IRS Chief Campaigned With Tax Cheat Rangel
As allegations of tax fraud swirled around Rep. Charlie Rangel, then-IRS Commissioner appeared with him at a campaign-style event in Harlem. The PR event at a local food bank was ostensibly to discuss tax credits for low-income workers, but the presence of Shulman gave a powerful boost to Rangel, just months after the New York Times called for him to step down.
Of course, we can't let Turbo Tax Timmy get away without a mention:
Out: tax cheat for Treasury Secretary. In: bailout profiteer for Treasury Secretary
President Obamas old Treasury Secretary was Turbo Tax Tim Geithner, one of the most celebrated tax cheats in America. Geithner comically claimed that his Turbo Tax software failed to ask him about the $42,000 dollars in self-employment taxes that he managed not to pay for four years running. The exact same defense has been rejected by the courts several times when other people tried to use it, but Geithner skated by. His boss, of course, is extremely determined to collect higher taxes from other people.
One motto for the Devil and Democrats: Just lie, cheat, shred, make evidence disappear and dance like nobody's watching.
im not convinced sonasoft had contract to back up all irs emails, just those from office of chief counsel-footnote somewhere indicates occ had better email retrieval etc..
interesting lerners first email subject was “careful what you ask for” did that mean she was afraid they might recover her data? also she brought up -”but it may be too late-don’t they send them off to the hard drive cemetery?”
apparently she wanted to know if it had already been destroyed -doesn’t look innocent to me...
This is who Milhollland reported to back in 2011..looks like she’s a real piece of work. She’s now coveniently “retired”.
If LL & the 6 people/hard drives are all in a coordinating position to carry this out...
...then you can pretty much bet it was a cover-up of guilt.
Why should American citizens comply with a single damn demand of this outlaw federal government.
Yes, I know all of that. What I’m responding to is the idea many have that the software company is storing the IRS archives. It isn’t and the many people who now seem to believe it does are pretty close to qualifying for the term stupid.
No, you are wrong. Sonasoft does not provide storage servers. They are a SOFTWARE company.
In comment 4, Research99 pointed out this interesting item:
Lois Lerners husband is Michael Miles, a Washington-based corporate insurance lawyer and partner at the politically-connected law firm Sutherland, Asbill & Brennan. They now share a $2.4 million residence near Bethesda, Maryland.
Miles previously served as an attorney in the Office of the Chief Counsel of the IRS.
Which is exactly why they are going to such lengths, even resorting to ludicrous lies, to do anything & everything to keep those emails from seeing the light of day. I have no doubt the targeting plan goes straight to the WH. Does Congress REALLY want to know the truth (i.e. Issa could do more .... why is he not?) If the actual truth comes out, it will be so egregious, Congress will have to DO something about it ... and they don't have the political will/courage. So it's little truth - ok for optics; full truth, no matter where it leads - not so good for Congress in their present state of "bending over" on all things Obama.
Its deeply ominous what is happening here is. We have clear evidence of not only politicization of federal agencies but obvious lawbreaking sanctioned at the highest levels as well. More obvious than anything thats happened before.
And a MSM STILL determined to protect the state from the consequences of their lawlessness.
There have been incidences of this kind before but never anything so clearly illegal and dangerous to there republic. I was still hoping that if things got bad enough - and embarrassing enough for the toads in the news media - they would suffer a pang of consciousness and do their damn jobs but that apparently is not going to happen.
The hardware solution they offer is a set of hard drives by Rorke, set for RAID5, that would be installed at the customer’s location.
RAID5 allows for the set to lose one drive and still be recoverable.
RAID6 would allow 2 drives to go down and still be recoverable.
NPR's Judy Woodruff was on Fox News Sunday as a panelist and they were discussing the lost e-mails. She said "I'm not reporting it" and nether of the 'right of center' panelists asked why not - we're doomed!
Congress should be VERY public about discussions with Sonasoft, and a subpoena is in order.. Sonasoft COULD end up embarrassing itself and harming it’s reputation if it doesn’t cough up Lerner’s Emails WHICH THEY 100% SURELY MUST STILL HAVE.
NOBODY WOULD BELIEVE THIS!
Watching Juan Williams on Fox News Sunday claiming that the drive crashed BEFORE Congress became interested in the case was very instructive (a teachable moment!) in how Dems think and act, “If I lie it is not a lie. How dare you accuse me of it.”
“Since the mainstream media is clearly ignoring it, there is no awareness”
Which is why some Republicans in DC need to grow a pair and call a spade a spade. I’d say calling out the Odingo Administration as a Fascist tyrannical Organization and the Media it’s enablers would get a lot of outrage and Nightly News cover of indignation. As long as the Repubies stand behind it and defend it with the evidence that is all around us it will get some of the LIV attention at which point it could snowball.
So .. where is the archived material ..??
This mess just gets deeper and smellier.
Just fire the whole lot of them .. no benefits .. no unemployment .. NO NOTHING.
SUCH A WANTON DISREGARD FOR AMERICA .. it’s stunning.
I agree .. that was my first concern .. where is the archived data ..??
I bet Edward Snowden could find those emails
My company won’t let me file exempt however I changed to 9 dependents
I will be damned if I let these terrorists use my money, the arrogance of
these bastards is appalling and NOTHING being done about it!!!!
Ms Tucker seemed pretty young to give up the Government gravy train. I’m sure she had a lot of help and hush money to help with the decision. No doubt she will run for the Mayor of Austin for her next gig.
Good stuff, the law is very clear, but unfortunately rule 37 has nuanced holes that Hillary Clinton’s ass could drive through.
Key word...”AFTER” which would suggest they might still have them.
IRS corruption bump for later..
How convenient...For...(fill in the blank)
Don’t miss the dot and connection posted by QT @ 67 !
Before joining the firm in 1983, Michael served as an attorney in the Office of the Chief Counsel of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). He has more than 30 years of experience in handling federal tax controversies, first for the IRS and now for the firms corporate and individual clients, as well as substantial experience in obtaining rulings for clients on corporate tax and other matters and in practicing before the IRS.
Currently represents AIG in an action against the federal government regarding the return of $306 million in taxes AIG paid in 2008.
Advised Spectrum Brands, Inc., in its merger with Russell Hobbs Inc., to form a new global consumer products company with an estimated $3 billion in annual revenue. The new company will have a new home appliance business unit featuring a variety of well-known consumer brands, including George Foreman, Russell Hobbs, Black & Decker, Toastmaster and Littermaid.
Counseled Altria Group Inc., New York-based parent of cigarette-maker Philip Morris, in its 2007 purchase of John Middleton Inc., a Pennsylvania ci
Notable partners and employees
David Adelman former partner, United States Ambassador to Singapore
Alfred C. Aman, Jr. - former associate attorney, renowned professor of administrative law, author, and professor at Indiana University Maurer School of Law
George Bostick former partner, Benefits Tax Counsel at the United States Department of the Treasury
Carolyn Chiechi - former partner, judge on the United States Tax Court
David A. Gross - former partner, United States Ambassador
Jack Reed - former associate attorney, current United States Senator for Rhode Island
Michael B. Thornton - former associate attorney, judge on the United States Tax Court
Margaret Richardson - partner, former Commissioner of Internal Revenue Service
Randolph W. Thrower - partner, former commissioner of the Internal Revenue Service
Elbert Tuttle - founder, and later the chief judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit
John H. Walsh - former associate director at the Securities and Exchange Commission
Margaret Milner Peggy Richardson (born 14 May 1943) is an American lawyer and former Commissioner of Internal Revenue at the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) from 1993 to 1997.
Life and career
A native of Waco, Texas, she earned an undergraduate degree in political science from Vassar College in 1965 and a J.D. with honors from The George Washington University Law School in 1968. She married lawyer John L. Richardson in 1967 and has one daughter. She is a member of the District of Columbia and Virginia bars and is a Fellow of the American Bar Foundation.
Richardson clerked at the U.S. Court of Claims before joining the Office of Chief Counsel of the IRS, eventually becoming the first woman promoted to executive rank in that offices history.
In 1977, Richardson joined law firm Sutherland, Asbill and Brennan in Washington D.C., becoming a partner in 1980 until her 1993 IRS appointment. During her tenure, she was appointed to the IRS Commissioners Advisory Group, serving as a member from 1988 to 1990 and as chair from 1989 to 1990.
Following her service as IRS Commissioner, Richardson became a member of Ernst & Young, in Washington, D.C. from December 1997 to 2003. She has since served on the boards of Jackson Hewitt Tax Service, Inc. and Legg Mason.
Randolph W. Thrower (born September 5, 1913) is a partner at Sutherland Asbill & Brennan LLP, a law firm with principal offices in Atlanta, Georgia and Washington, D.C. He was born in Tampa, Florida. Thrower, running as a Republican, unsuccessfully challenged incumbent segregationist James C. Davis for a seat in Congress in 1956. He later served as Commissioner of Internal Revenue under President Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1971
13 posted on March 8, 2014 at 11:19:21 AM CST by maggief
Even if there was more “public” awareness...
The more this administration and its agencies can stick it to the “man”...the more those people love it...
They do not care, nor do they want it to change...
So the people destroying the social and civil fabric in this country are not limited to the few elected to office...Or being appointed by those elected, and corrupted schmups we have in these offices these days...
But hey...preaching to the choir...
Very convenient, not suspicious at all.... lol
Who can file RICO charges against this administration, or parts thereof?
Can this be done by ordinary citizens, various legal foundations, the aggrieved Tea Party organizations or officers?
This is certainly organized crime of the greatest sort.
I believe it’s even illegal to suggest a Federal tax strike, is it not? If so, then I’m certainly not suggesting it,.
But I do wonder what would happen if people quietly decided, each individually, to not bother filing next year, or not making quarterly tax payments? Is that what the 8 trillion rounds of ammo to the IRS and other agencies was really for?
And they need to be held accountable too.
Start watching the news for strange deaths of Sonasoft employees.
I agree, that a real explanation is warranted.
The migrations services and their vault claim says those e mails did not just go away, and even if there is a Raid5 or Raid6, there should be emails available from somewhere. NO WAY do you lose important e mails that are told employees DO NOT DELETE due to law.
Just another in a very looong line of coinky dinks with this admin.
Who cancelled it? Criminal charges shall be brought.
You are simply not understanding. For some reason you seem to still think I am saying something about whether the emails have been deleted or not.
What I am telling you is that you are wrong to say Sonasoft has or had the archived email. They do not and they did not. You are wrong.