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Thousands go without water as Detroit cuts service for nonpayment
LA Times ^ | 28 June 14 | Alana Semuels

Posted on 06/29/2014 4:54:35 AM PDT by SkyPilot

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To: cripplecreek

Your posts cheer me up, truly!


101 posted on 06/29/2014 6:09:27 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: SkyPilot

Little children in African countries have to walk several miles with a bucket to watering holes shared by water buffalo to get water for the day. Git yer buckets Detroit.


102 posted on 06/29/2014 6:09:36 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Anything is possible, if you don't know what you're talking about.)
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To: snappahead

And mine costs whatever electricity it costs to pump it from my well. I don’t even think about it because its so minimal. I paid $200 to drain my septic tank for the first time in the 15 odd years I’ve been here.


103 posted on 06/29/2014 6:10:28 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Sorry; I was responding to “Ouderkirk”.

Enjoy your retirement; I still have a few decades to go myself...


104 posted on 06/29/2014 6:10:40 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: cripplecreek; All
The cost in Detroit is extremely high ($75 per month on average) but there are reasons for it. Heavy unionization, mismanagement, and thousands of unpaid bills make up the bulk of that cost.

Freeper's you need to listen to CrippleCreek on this. We are in the "Detwaa" burbs, but this is a multilayered problem.

* The Regions water source is Detroit and their system.
* He is right, mismanagement etc, although their is some evidence they are trying to clean up their act.
* As an Asset, and depending upon how or if you believe their numbers, it maybe a cash generator at some point, but as an Asset it is part of the sticky Detroit Bankruptcy. What to do with it, sell it? keep it? etc etc.
* The potential for the burbs to get hit with huge rate increases are their and CC might know some Municipalities maybe already looking towards getting off Detroit's water and finding their own solution.

105 posted on 06/29/2014 6:13:22 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Circus, Not my Monkey ( Boy does that apply to DC...))
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To: grania

The only answer is inner city jobs...bring manufacturing back. Then people will have paychecks instead of freebies.

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I just don’t see a nation of industrious people anymore. Work is not honored and respected the way it once was. If you give people jobs they won’t be grateful and probably won’t show up everyday.

America used to be the Land of the Free. Now its just the Land of the Freebie. I’m entitled to my benefits and I want them now! /sarc


106 posted on 06/29/2014 6:15:38 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: SkyPilot

Water is not a right, it’s an element. It comes 2 ways, clean or dirty. If you don’t want to PAY for CLEAN water, then I suggest a trip to the arctic where one can find a glacier and post up under it for a drink. If however you live in say Detroit, you might want the water to be managed, cleaned filtered, pressurized, and delivered via faucet to your sink, that’s IF you need CLEAN water.
Dirty water can be found in your local street puddle for consumption at your own risk


107 posted on 06/29/2014 6:15:48 AM PDT by snappahead (if your gonna be dumb, you better be tough.)
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To: taildragger
Story from 2008.

Where does our drinking water come from?

"In Michigan, we are fortunate that even the less desirable sources are better than many sources that must be relied upon in other areas of the country," she said. "In terms of the degree of treatment necessary to make water potable, groundwater is usually considered the best source, followed by the Great Lakes and then inland streams and lakes." Ann Arbor gets about 85 percent of its water from the Huron River. The raw water from each source is blended together and treated at the city's water treatment plant so all customers receive the same water quality.

YCUA buys its drinking water from Detroit, which gets it from the Detroit River.

108 posted on 06/29/2014 6:18:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: SkyPilot

In one glance it is obvious she has money for abundant food, tattoos and hair styling. She has money for the things that are important to her.


109 posted on 06/29/2014 6:21:52 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Starboard
if you give people jobs they won't be grateful

I don't know how things can be turned around. Maybe the federal gov has to collapse in its present form. Some, not all people, would never report for work. I'm okay with them given a bed, a shower, and a nutritious inexpensive meal...that's it. After that it's survival of the fittest.

Anything beyond that would have to be in exchange for work. It's the only way to turn things around.

110 posted on 06/29/2014 6:22:30 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

“The only answer is inner city jobs...bring manufacturing back. Then people will have paychecks instead of freebies.”

What role do you see for uneducated, undisciplined people in such a manufacturing economy? In fact, they are a barrier to such jobs, as the employer would be asked to pay their workers along with the city’s non-workers and their welfare bastards.


111 posted on 06/29/2014 6:22:50 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Thank you! I do know Jersey is a mess; what has the gov done about it? Nothing!


112 posted on 06/29/2014 6:22:50 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I heard on FNC that a majority of those whom had their water turned off paid in full within a couple of days to get the water flowing again. Just a bunch of losers trying to game the system.


113 posted on 06/29/2014 6:25:54 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: miss marmelstein

“I do know Jersey is a mess; what has the gov done about it? Nothing!”

He has stabilized the property taxes by capping the increases at 2%; this was a huge step that resulted in a lot of government layoffs. Before that cap taxes could go up over $500 per year while good jobs were disappearing. Now when teachers get 4% raises, government workers in other areas lose their jobs and taxes only go up 2%; the parasite class has to look elsewhere for work because most of NJ won’t be hiring any time soon.


114 posted on 06/29/2014 6:25:56 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: cripplecreek

My combined water and sewer bills are about 75 bucks or so. I don’t understand why you think that’s high.


115 posted on 06/29/2014 6:26:36 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: miss marmelstein
There are hundreds of freepers who won’t admit there’s a Depression.

I hadn't thought about it, so lets go to the definition of 'Depression': A severe and prolonged downturn in economic activity. In economics, a depression is commonly defined as an extreme recession that lasts two or more years. A depression is characterized by economic factors such as substantial increases in unemployment, a drop in available credit, diminishing output, bankruptcies and sovereign debt defaults, reduced trade and commerce, and sustained volatility in currency values. In times of depression, consumer confidence and investments decrease, causing the economy to shut down.

1. Prolonged downturn - yes

2. Increased unemployment - yes, if we look at labor force participation

3. Drop in credit - yes for businesses (not for banks)

4. Diminishing output - yes

5. Bankruptcies - yes, plenty

6. Sovereign debt defaults - Greece? Spain?

7. Reduced trade - ?

8. Investment decrease - yes

9. Consumer confidence down - definitely

Okay Miss Marmelstein, maybe an objective opinion is yes, there is an economic depression.

116 posted on 06/29/2014 6:27:38 AM PDT by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: grania

We need to incentivize “welfare to work”. Welfare in its current form punishes any attempt to get off. We start them at high numbers and any earned money results in a large loss of benefits.

We should start all welfare at the rock bottom and increase benefits in relation to earned money up to a certain cut off point. Keep comfort just out of reach of those taking benefits so they’re always encouraged to earn more on their own.


117 posted on 06/29/2014 6:29:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Go Gordon

And now we have the added delight of people in Detroit bathing in the river ‘cause they ain’t got no water! Somewhere, Bill Ayers is smiling.


118 posted on 06/29/2014 6:30:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: kearnyirish2

“What role do you see for uneducated, undisciplined people in such a manufacturing economy?”

One need look no further than the crap quality of the cars being built in Detroit in the 70’s and 80’s. I suspect the work force at that time was better educated and disciplined, what an unmitigated disaster it would be now.


119 posted on 06/29/2014 6:30:39 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: SkyPilot
Nicole Hill holds up her past-due water bill at her home in Detroit.

Yeah, but I gots mie tats, purdyee painteds nails, 0 bummer phone and ain't missed no meals.

120 posted on 06/29/2014 6:39:02 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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