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The Stolen Job Myth: Do Immigrants Take Jobs Away from Native-Born Americans?
Townhall ^ | 07/02/2014 | Jeff Jacoby

Posted on 07/03/2014 11:03:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Beagle8U

Individual circumstances may vary, but that’s about the gist of it. You can send home and/or save a hell of a lot of $$$ when some other sap is paying all your living expenses.


21 posted on 07/03/2014 11:53:57 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: DB

“I suggest Jeff Jacoby move to a town near where any commercial agriculture is done. Little Mexico shit holes with high crime where drunks roam/fight in the streets and everything nearby is stripped of copper and aluminum at night - even guardrails on the highway... These people don’t even begin to pay the cost of law enforcement and providing their many children with a public education.”

He can come to the NYC metro area and see the same nonsense. The healthcare costs have closed up some hospitals already; the state that requires them to treat illegals continuously reduces the reimbursement until they have to close...


22 posted on 07/03/2014 11:56:10 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Vigilanteman

Yep, and after a few years Pedro will start his own construction business, employing many more just like him.

AS soon as his wife squirts out a few ‘lottery’ pups they can get green cards and citizenship.


23 posted on 07/03/2014 12:01:05 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Unions are an Affirmative Action program for Slackers! .)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Thank you for stating what should be obvious to everybody.

Entry-level low-skill workers are bidding each other down, down, down for the available jobs, and our own unemployed --- mainly male, youth, and minority --- are bidding-down against the poorest people in the hemisphere.

"Aha," says the lib policy wonk. "That's why we have to raise the minimum wage!"

Which guarantees that the workforce will be cut, and/or mechanized. They've got a robot now that forms, grills, assembles with the fixin's, and wraps burgers , 360 of them a hour, at a price that it'll pay for itself in a year.

Ain't nobody can compete with that.

And you don''t have to deal with unions and employee pilfering ("inventory shrinkage").

24 posted on 07/03/2014 12:03:20 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Death and life have contended in that combat stupendous. - Victimae paschali laudes)
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To: SeekAndFind

If we have a 90% unemployed rate for black teenagers in the cities, the blitzkrieg of illegal aliens working under the table at every city restaurant is not conducive to solving the black teenage problem. Business owners who hire illegals earn a “Smuggler’s Profit” and have a huge advantage over businesses that obey the law. Legal immigration prevents this from happening.

America is being taken for a sucker!

We are paying for our own unemployed, our own infirm and our own disabled and our own welfare recipients, and now we are paying for the illegals who get medical care and education and welfare. And the ones in prison, we pay for them as well. It is a no-win situation.


25 posted on 07/03/2014 12:34:28 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus (Light from Light)
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To: SeekAndFind
Immigrants are more likely to be employed at the high or low ends of the labor market, explains Alex Nowrasteh of the Cato Institute, while most Americans have skills in the middle.

tell that to the teens who can't find entry-level jobs after highschool, or the grandmoms, who can't find entry-level jobs after "retirement."

26 posted on 07/03/2014 12:34:49 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: SeekAndFind

Years ago I remember Ann Coulter writing that maybe it was before WWII when we had high levels of immigration here that about 60% of the immigrants eventually returned to their home country. Like maybe they didn’t find the “pot of gold” here. But theses were the days before all the welfare benefits were available like they are now. And also, America now gives preferred status (e.g., affirmative action) to anyone who’s non white.

And I think that LEGAL immigration is also a disaster. Born and raised people here are in short order feeling like they’re living in a foreign country where they’re not even appreciated for what legacy they and their predecessors created for the “new arrivals”. And It’s just all conspiring to very rapidly turn this country into the kind of place that elects people like Barrack Obama. In other words, I think America’s a sinking ship because of immigration policies and I don’t see the fix.


27 posted on 07/03/2014 12:45:02 PM PDT by bluedogpdx
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To: SeekAndFind

Jeff Jacoby has always billed himself as a conservative but, in my experience, often reaches while posing as a conservative, to deliver a message destructive of the rule of law, which is an essential quality of the American republic. Here he joins the WSJ editorial page and Larry Kudlow with the same misrepresentative argument. Those Americans who suffer actual injury under this policy of amnesty are forbidden to take legal action to recover. How does that improve the country? It doesn’t. Instead it destroys the rule of law.


28 posted on 07/03/2014 12:46:45 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is RACIST to impose SLAVE wages on LEGAL immigrants and minorities, by flooding the labor market with ILLEGAL Immigrants.


29 posted on 07/03/2014 12:46:50 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Find me an English speaking landscape laborer.


30 posted on 07/03/2014 12:54:13 PM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I had a lot of work done 5 years ago by a local landscape/hardscape contractor who had an entirely Black American crew. Most everyone else in that business around here has Hispanic crews, many likely illegal.

Three years ago, he threw in the towel for similar reasons.


31 posted on 07/03/2014 1:28:39 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s not all about the jobs, what concerns me more is the general wage suppression.


32 posted on 07/03/2014 2:01:44 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: impimp
Like the RINOs, I too believe the US needs way more immigration. Unlike the RINOs. I believe in the deportation or incarceration of every illegal.

I disagree completely. We've exceeded our carrying capacity of new immigrants. We need about 20 years of very low immigration numbers to give what we've got a chance to assimilate. This was the historical norm until the latter part of the 20th century. We would have large waves of immigration, then respites where they would have a chance to merge into society.

We've been taking it like water from a firehose for 30+ years now. Time to shut it off for a while.

Repeat illegals previously deported should have "IA" tatooed on their forehead, then deported again. 3rd attempt should employ branding.

 

 

33 posted on 07/03/2014 2:28:15 PM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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To: zeugma

Pretty much agree....................


34 posted on 07/03/2014 2:29:20 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: zeugma

But if the illegals were deported would there be large numbers of immigrants to assimilate? No. If the illegals were removed then whatever it is that you fear would largely be irrelevant. We would have law abiding immigrants coming here - sounds good to me.

By the way, any time the phrase “carrying capacity” is used it sets off red flags that a Malthusian enviro-wacko is among us. Not that you used the term in that manner - just a heads up.


35 posted on 07/03/2014 2:55:07 PM PDT by impimp
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course they want our jobs. That’s why they come here. That want my job, they want your job. The question in the title is ridiculous.


36 posted on 07/03/2014 3:05:49 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: SeekAndFind

ILLEGAL immigration. ILLEGAL Mr. Jacoby you tool.

Look it up. Or did Townhall throw away all of it’s dictionaries?


37 posted on 07/03/2014 3:09:59 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: House Atreides

I did years ago.


38 posted on 07/03/2014 3:11:30 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: impimp
But if the illegals were deported would there be large numbers of immigrants to assimilate? No. If the illegals were removed then whatever it is that you fear would largely be irrelevant. We would have law abiding immigrants coming here - sounds good to me.

Again, I think we've exceeded our limit for integrating even the 'legal' immigrants that are already here.

By the way, any time the phrase “carrying capacity” is used it sets off red flags that a Malthusian enviro-wacko is among us. Not that you used the term in that manner - just a heads up.

Yeah, there is that, but the phrase is pretty descriptive, in pretty much the precise way I was trying to use it.

39 posted on 07/04/2014 12:11:01 AM PDT by zeugma (It is time for us to start playing cowboys and muslims for real now.)
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