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Investment & Finance Thread (week July 6 - July 12 edition) [my title: The Economy Looks Great!]
Weekly investment & finance thread ^ | July 6, 2014 | Freeper Investors

Posted on 07/06/2014 10:24:34 AM PDT by expat_panama

 

Huh. 

While coming into the second half of 2014 we just had the GDP and employment rpts, and what happened is we got what seemed to be contradictory -2.7% and +6.3 bombshells.    On the other hand (Truman hated economists saying that) a look at the year over year GDP return along with the employment/population ratio puts the two together.

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The reason GDP growth looks solid is because that -2.7% was just one Qtr to the next, so last week's rpt tells us more about how good Q4 was than it does about how bad Q1 turned out.  Something else is the fact that over this past 1/2 year employment/population is finally making a move --a move we've not seen since the "recovery" began in '09.

 

 

 

OK, so last week I said "IMHO we're in an economy where we can still make money but it's just going to take more effort", but judging how stocks'n'metals are now rising up from this year's base there's reason to think that it may not take as much effort after all...

 

This is the thread where folks swap ideas on savings and investment --here's a list of popular investing links that freepers have posted here and tomorrow morning we'll go on with our--

Open invitation continues always for idea-input for the thread, this being a joint effort works well.   Keywords: financial, WallStreet, stockmarket, economy.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; financial; stockmarket; wallstreet
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1 posted on 07/06/2014 10:24:34 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: abb; Abigail Adams; abigail2; AK_47_7.62x39; Aliska; Aquamarine; Archie Bunker on steroids; ...

—so there’s nothing to have worried about after all ping.


2 posted on 07/06/2014 10:26:13 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Thanks for the ping


3 posted on 07/06/2014 10:30:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why no outrage over IRS targeting? Same reason Pravda didn't make a stink about gulags.FREnterprise)
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To: Wyatt's Torch; Chgogal
So this means I take back what I said in last week's post #88 here, and I'm glad I'm just trying to take back last week's words and not last week's trades...
4 posted on 07/06/2014 10:32:20 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: GOPJ

truly my pleasure


5 posted on 07/06/2014 10:50:18 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

Business events scheduled for the coming week
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/business-events-scheduled-coming-week-185317628.html

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Business events scheduled for the coming week
Business events and economic reports scheduled for the coming week
By The Associated Press
July 3, 2014 1:58 PM

All times are Eastern.

MONDAY, July 7

BERLIN — Germany’s Economy Ministry releases May industrial production figures for Europe’s biggest economy.

TUESDAY, July 8

WASHINGTON — Labor Department releases job openings and labor turnover survey for May, 10 a.m.; Federal Reserve releases consumer credit data for May, 3 p.m.

BERLIN — Germany’s Federal Statistical Office releases export and import data for May.

Alcoa Inc. reports quarterly financial results after the market closes.

WEDNESDAY, July 9

WASHINGTON — Federal Reserve releases minutes from its June interest-rate meeting.

THURSDAY, July 10

WASHINGTON —Labor Department releases weekly jobless claims, 8:30 a.m.; Freddie Mac, the mortgage company, releases weekly mortgage rates, 10 a.m.; Commerce Department releases wholesale trade inventories for May, 10 a.m.

NEW YORK — Selected chain retailers release June sales comparisons.

FRIDAY, July 11

WASHINGTON — Treasury releases federal budget for June, 2 p.m.

Wells Fargo & Co. reports quarterly financial results before the market opens.


6 posted on 07/06/2014 11:20:16 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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To: expat_panama

What? Great? Then why is gas higher? And what about groceries higher too?

The economy is not great.


7 posted on 07/06/2014 11:54:32 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: expat_panama

So I don’t have to look this up myself, has the macro econ metric MV, ever went negative in the last 70 years?

5.56mm


8 posted on 07/06/2014 12:09:01 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Salvation
The economy is not great.

Wall Street may not accurately reflect discretionary income. But the sound you hear is the sound of the middle class being squeezed. Take a deep breath. Say to yourself in meditation "One world government. One world standard of living. One world religion". Then everything will seem all right.

9 posted on 07/06/2014 12:40:35 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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To: BipolarBob; Salvation
The economy is not great.

Wall Street may not accurately reflect discretionary income

lol!!  --this reminds me of back when I was a civil engineer I'd get rich every time there was some big natural disaster for me to build new dams and roads.  Now I'm working in the capital markets and I get rich when things in the labor markets have been horrible but are finally beginning to turn up. 

Let's get together on what the facts are; five years ago ten million people lost their jobs and are still jobless.  That's bad.  What we got now is that the American people seem to have finally gotten the situation under control and it really does look like we're making it right.  That's good.

10 posted on 07/06/2014 1:21:34 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: M Kehoe
has the macro econ metric MV, ever went negative in the last 70 years?

Please help me out here, I'm not following how the money supply or velocity could be less than zero.

11 posted on 07/06/2014 1:33:01 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

I’m sorry, it was a rhetorical question.

5.56mm


12 posted on 07/06/2014 1:40:42 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: M Kehoe
a rhetorical question.

Ah, that explains it; I never get those right.  I'm good at T/F or multiple choice but I always screw up on the essays and rhetoricals.

13 posted on 07/06/2014 3:24:45 PM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama

And there’s about $12 TRILLION in money sitting on the sidelines, waiting to come in with the right policies. A conservative (not Republican) Congress could unleash that capital flow as occurred in the 1990s under Schlickmeister.


14 posted on 07/06/2014 4:39:34 PM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: expat_panama
Last night I saw on Bloomberg TV Steve Forbes taking questions regarding money in general (he apparently just published a new book).

He mentioned that after the Nov elections in ‘14 the Feds are going to be ‘sticking their claws’ into mutual funds, money funds, etc., and ‘anything that moves’. But that was it - no follow-up, no outrage, no suggestions on what to do about it - he just seemed resigned to the fact that it's going to happen.

Assuming this comes to pass, what will it mean for the markets, the fund management business, and the average Joe's retirement money, in your estimation?

16 posted on 07/06/2014 7:52:00 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone; Wyatt's Torch
What say you about the Feds ability to stick “their claws’ into mutual funds, money funds, etc., and anything that moves”?
18 posted on 07/06/2014 10:13:11 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Chgogal

What say you about the Feds ability to stick “their claws’ into mutual funds, money funds, etc., and anything that moves”?

I would give my thoughts but my comment would probably be removed also.


20 posted on 07/07/2014 4:33:53 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin
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