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Backlash In U.S. Against Foreign Worker Visas Growing
Talking Points Memo ^ | July 6 2014 | LAURA WIDES-MUNOZ and PAUL WISEMAN

Posted on 07/06/2014 11:03:16 AM PDT by PoloSec

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1 posted on 07/06/2014 11:03:16 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

Only the most blithering race bigot or America-Hating Liberal Globalist thinks we need any foreign workers


2 posted on 07/06/2014 11:05:41 AM PDT by DisorderOnBorder (Haley Barbour gave me $15 to vote)
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To: PoloSec

Complaining about H-1B workers is racist and hateful.


3 posted on 07/06/2014 11:14:16 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims")
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To: PoloSec

When Patriot Law is declared (shortly perhaps) any immigration whether legal or not will be outlawed and any managers employing illegals could be hanged as an example to others. But illegal immigration and the H1B issue are only a few of the flawed cogs in the gears that run the USA these days. Patriot Law is going to have to deal with quite a few issues in short order.


4 posted on 07/06/2014 11:22:54 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (9999 EOM)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

I laughed at a guy several years ago who claimed that what these big multi-national companies really wanted was to be just like Foxconn with huge dormitories and guards to keep the workers in them until their next work shift let them into the factory to work.

I’m not laughing anymore.

Today I look around and I see these huge companies not wanting American workers because we are to ‘old’ or we cost too much. Yet they want us to buy all of the stuff they make and provide. How can we do that if we don’t get paid a prevailing wage? Answer: We can’t, which leads us to the inevitable point that the entire world-wide economy may just come crashing down.

The survivors of that will be the lucky and the prepared. Personally I think the lucky are going to out-number the prepared.


5 posted on 07/06/2014 11:23:15 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: The Working Man

dittos!!!


6 posted on 07/06/2014 11:26:54 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: The Working Man

They’ll just sell their crap in countries where people have jobs...like china.


7 posted on 07/06/2014 11:29:13 AM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: PoloSec

An individual trained in engineering or comp sci can readily update to any new tech concepts or programming advances. It isn’t difficult for an intelligent, well-educated individual in these fields. I can speak directly to the use of H1B’s as cheap labor. A recent employer of mine (not a company but a state gov’t) hired individuals with visa challenges that US citizens don’t have—the pay rate was about 40% less than the going rate across the US for comparable positions and institutions. There was no overt advertising for such individuals but the pay and the situation would result in such candidates. The result was a department staffed with people from all over the planet and a few old-timers from the local area. Performance among the foreign hires was a mess. A few US citizens were hired but they either left quickly or were awful performers, too.

It is about the money. Good performers cost money—but they are well worth it. As far as gov’t goes, it is the gov’t’s responsibility to encourage economic opportunity for the citizenry. This gov’t works against that responsibility and that is arguably the worst thing a gov’t can do in peace time.


8 posted on 07/06/2014 11:29:19 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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Manpower, for example, last year posted U.S. job openings in India but not in the United States.

When big corporations have drained America dry to fatten their bottom line, what do they expect to do next?

9 posted on 07/06/2014 11:29:55 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: PoloSec

This stunt by the ham-fisted nitwit is likely to backfire and strengthen calls for immigration enforcement and make any amnesty bill unpalatable even for Democrats.


10 posted on 07/06/2014 11:31:13 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (This is known as "bad luck". - Robert A. Heinlein)
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Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg is among the high-profile executives pushing for more H-1Bs. The argument has long been that there aren't enough qualified American workers to fill certain jobs, especially in science, engineering and technology.

Another Billionaire Marxist pushing my wages down in a field I've been unable to get a job in since the last lay off.

I don't care how much money he has, I do mind that he lies to legislators to personally benefit himself at my expense.

11 posted on 07/06/2014 11:34:47 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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“The argument has long been that there aren’t enough qualified American workers to fill certain jobs, especially in science, engineering and technology.”

That is a lie.

The H1-B program should be eliminated.


12 posted on 07/06/2014 11:36:23 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: iacovatx

IBM’s solution was to encourage their laid off US citizens to move to India where they would be paid a mere fraction of their old salary but it would “go farther”.


13 posted on 07/06/2014 11:36:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
"This stunt by the ham-fisted nitwit is likely to backfire and strengthen calls for immigration enforcement and make any amnesty bill unpalatable even for Democrats."

That might just be why he did it!

14 posted on 07/06/2014 11:37:42 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Bryan24

I agree with you, H1B needs gone.


15 posted on 07/06/2014 11:41:08 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: a fool in paradise
IBM’s solution was to encourage their laid off US citizens to move to India where they would be paid a mere fraction of their old salary but it would “go farther”.

Wow. Did the top brass lead by example?

16 posted on 07/06/2014 11:41:57 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2177476/posts
Information Week
IBM Offers To Move Laid Off Workers To India
Feb. 2, 2009


17 posted on 07/06/2014 11:49:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: Bryan24

The easiest way to get rid of the H1B problem would be to eliminate the program altogether and alow those workers to get green cards. The H1B program is a promotion channel for all Indian staffing companies and you will not be promoted to management without an offshore stint by any of them. They send them here on H1B visas because they can’t take a better job from another firm without sponsorship and are at high risk of being deported if they look for another job.

I have been working with firms like Infosys for more than a decade and am well versed on how they operate as an employer as well as a supplier.


18 posted on 07/06/2014 11:56:49 AM PDT by Woodman
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To: The Working Man

“Today I look around and I see these huge companies not wanting American workers because we are to ‘old’ or we cost too much.”

It is because you expect a certain standard of living (which probably touches on both of your points), especially if you want to have a family.

“Yet they want us to buy all of the stuff they make and provide. How can we do that if we don’t get paid a prevailing wage? Answer: We can’t, which leads us to the inevitable point that the entire world-wide economy may just come crashing down.”

Actually, most of their customers are in Asia now, with their new rising middle classes that have our former jobs.


19 posted on 07/06/2014 11:57:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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Its simple, an H1B worker has to do what the company wants or they go home. Of course they will work longer and for less. Its indentured servitude. Now compete with that.


20 posted on 07/06/2014 11:57:56 AM PDT by sunrise_sunset
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