Skip to comments.Great Boa Constrictor terrorizes NJ Lake
Posted on 07/12/2014 6:47:51 AM PDT by njslim
A new danger has been lurking in the waters of the largest lake in New Jersey, in the form of a potentially dangerous snake. As CBS 2s Tracee Carrasco reported, a boa constrictor that could be up to 20 feet long is on the loose around Lake Hopatcong, and neighbors have been worried.
Can the movie be far off?
Boa Constrictors don’t get to be 20 feet long. Whatever the snake is, it has been misidentified.
Probably a specie of python.
In any case, it will be dead before Winter as the temperature drops.
I thought Menedez was down in the Dominican Republic being terrorized by Cooban Intelligence.
Went diving under the ice with my dive club one year......
Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherf****** snakes in this motherf****** lake!
I have heard that these giant snakes are making their way along the Gulf Coast from Florida. We have ranch land south of Houston about 20 miles from the coast. I hope these things don’t make it this far, I will be seriously creeped out and I will refuse to get out of the truck!
Is Lautenberg still alive?
But, but, but,... it has EPA protection.
Snakes are cold-blood animals, which means they can't make their own body heat and thus their body temperature is determined by the surrounding air temperature.
Large constrictors like pythons and boas are tropical snakes that require external temperatures at least higher than the mid-70s at the lowest, and often above 80 degrees F.
As you can see by the winter weather map below, there are not many places in the U.S. that maintain those average temperatures year round.
Thus, based on this map, it is clear that large tropical constrictors cannot live year-round outside of handful of south eastern states, and thus cannot maintain permanent populations outside of these areas.
As you can see, Texas is not one of those states where they can thrive.
People keep these animals as pets in all climates (although anyone who keeps a snake longer than 8-10 feet is nuts, in my opinion), and often release them when they get too big. So that can happen in any state. But these snakes generally will die as the weather gets colder.
As da mob sez in Joisey... don’t let’im put the squeeze onya.
Could be a green anaconda, in which case waterfront property values may drop as the “Invasive Species” feeding behaviors become widely known.
Perhaps it is not a snake - could it be a relative of ‘Nessy’?
Great news thanks. We have enough snakes on our property already, copperheads, cotton mouths, coral snakes, maybe a small ground rattler or 2 and a variety of non poisonous snakes.
Snakes are the only creatures on earth that I actually enjoy killing. When we lived on the ranch my husband called me “the fat babe” (I wasn’t fat) after a cartoon woman who was always killing snakes.
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The controlling factor would likely be the lowest winter refugia temperature to which the snake would be exposed.
Ground temperatures and now basement temperatures are likely the controlling factor.
Not necessarily as its didn’t get to its current size in one season
It sure as hell didn't get to its current size living outdoors for years in New Jersey. Even the article says that its likely that it was a pet, obviously owned by an idiot, who released it into the wild.
There is no way that this animal survived last winter living outdoors.
Plenty of other cold blooded snakes and animals survive the Winter in Northern states. Also, if you believe that this particular snake could not do so, then we would have to assume that someone dropped a 20 foot snake into the lake just this Spring. As unlikely as this whole story seems, that seems even more improbable.
Yes, cold blooded snakes do survive in the northeast, because they are able to hibernate. Giant tropical snakes don't do that.
I have kept many pet snakes over the past five decades, including boas and ball pythons. Anyone who has ever kept a tropical snake as a pet knows that keeping their environments warm enough is a critical aspect of their care. In all cases, that minimum temperature is 75 degrees.
Moreover, it is completely plausible that someone dropped a 20 foot snake into an area near the lake, and probably fairly recently given the average temperatures in the Northeast through this past April.
Many (stupid) people keep large snakes and then decide to release them in the wild when they get too big and too expensive to maintain. Or possibly, it escaped.
It is absolutely impossible that a large constrictor survived this past Northeastern winter (or any other winter) in the wild.
Just post a recipe for chicken fried snake and me ‘n Bubba’ll be right up there.
I have heard people express concerns this could happen I haven't heard anything like that. The pythons are in the everglades and would have a long ways to go
yes but they would do pretty good in the swamps of Louisiana. But that is a long ways from the everglades
“Snakes are cold-blood animals, which means they can’t make their own body heat and thus their body temperature is determined by the surrounding air temperature.”
Darwinian adaptation. Scientists have proven that from one celled animals to humans took only a billion years, so cold blooded to warm blooded should have taken no more than ,what, 10-12 months?
I suspect you are right, based on the winter weather map I posted in support of my assertions.
This snake has not been positively ID’d.So know one knows what type it is. Seems everyone is assuming its a Boa from some nit wits un professional observation.
CBS 2s Tracee Carrasco(Snake expert,nope)
animal control officers believe the 15- to 20-foot-long boa constrictor is in the water,(Snake expert,nope)
They’ll never make it past South Louisiana, the land of, “you kin eat that!” If there’s no season and no limits they’ll be wiped out.
True. But if it is anywhere near 20 feet, it is not a boa constrictor (which is what the article calls it), although it is certainly a tropical species.
In my world there is no snake that does not deserve a good killing.
Also,Its probably not 20 feet
I have snakes here in the stone walls and they keep the chipmunks,ground squirrels and other rodent populations down.We don’t kill them.
Ya being very kind there :)
Most snakes are harmless. My friend Henry is a rat snake. He keeps the rodents under control in my barns and keeps other snakes away. Every year I anxiously await the first Henry sighting. I feel much better once I see him, knowing the rattlers won’t be around.
Actually, it depends, we have Freddie who lives in the barn and keeps the rats at bay. He lives there rent free. It’s the cotton mouth that gets up on the seat of the dozer when it gets stuck in the mud that I want dead.
This here is Florida.
20 foot boa?
In my world they are all deadly poisonous and deserve to die.
Watch out there! You are talking about my people........... well MrD’s people actually. :)
Keep a shotgun in your truck and you’ll be just fine.
>>It is absolutely impossible that a large constrictor survived this past Northeastern winter (or any other winter) in the wild. <<
Could one live in the sewer system of a city or underneath an apartment building and feed on rats?
In the town next to me with a high Italian population, almost everyone lost their fig trees due to the cold. The blueberry bushes got hit really hard too. They already have the picking machines in the fields
“A” shotgun? You mean just one? shawwwww! This is the UH Ranch you are talking about! :)
Definitely could live on rats. I don't know anything about the temperature of a sewer system, but if the temperature were in the right range, I suppose so.
Everyone’s been pretty comical on this thread... I’m heading to Lake Hopatcong for a 10 day stay this coming Wednesday. This has been our summer home for my entire lifetime.
If any Lake Hopatcong Freepers are on this thread: can you tell me about where this thing was spotted? We’ll obviously take precautions but this gives me the willies.
T’all need some gators up there!
You might find out first whether the boa makes good chili.
Yes we have snakes here in MTNs NC and they go underground in winter...10-15 below -0- about once a winter...otherwise mild winters.
That said, the snakes come out every summer to play, so why would that big one be any different...I am not a snake person but know they don’t all die in winter.