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Great Boa Constrictor terrorizes NJ Lake
WCBS - TV 2 (NY) ^ | Tracee Carrasco

Posted on 07/12/2014 6:47:51 AM PDT by njslim

A new danger has been lurking in the waters of the largest lake in New Jersey, in the form of a potentially dangerous snake. As CBS 2’s Tracee Carrasco reported, a boa constrictor that could be up to 20 feet long is on the loose around Lake Hopatcong, and neighbors have been worried.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: lake; lakehopatcong; nj; snake
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SNAKES!!! IN THE LAKE...!!!
1 posted on 07/12/2014 6:47:51 AM PDT by njslim
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To: njslim

Can the movie be far off?


2 posted on 07/12/2014 6:50:24 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: njslim

Boa Constrictors don’t get to be 20 feet long. Whatever the snake is, it has been misidentified.

Probably a specie of python.

In any case, it will be dead before Winter as the temperature drops.


3 posted on 07/12/2014 6:52:43 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: njslim

I thought Menedez was down in the Dominican Republic being terrorized by Cooban Intelligence.


4 posted on 07/12/2014 6:54:23 AM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Maceman

Probably true

Went diving under the ice with my dive club one year......


5 posted on 07/12/2014 6:55:29 AM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: njslim

Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherf****** snakes in this motherf****** lake!


6 posted on 07/12/2014 6:57:59 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Maceman

I have heard that these giant snakes are making their way along the Gulf Coast from Florida. We have ranch land south of Houston about 20 miles from the coast. I hope these things don’t make it this far, I will be seriously creeped out and I will refuse to get out of the truck!


7 posted on 07/12/2014 7:01:05 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: njslim

Is Lautenberg still alive?


8 posted on 07/12/2014 7:11:20 AM PDT by eCSMaster ("It is not the color of his skin, ... it is the blackness that fills his soul")
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To: Maceman

But, but, but,... it has EPA protection.


9 posted on 07/12/2014 7:14:03 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Ditter
I have heard that these giant snakes are making their way along the Gulf Coast from Florida.

Snakes are cold-blood animals, which means they can't make their own body heat and thus their body temperature is determined by the surrounding air temperature.

Large constrictors like pythons and boas are tropical snakes that require external temperatures at least higher than the mid-70s at the lowest, and often above 80 degrees F.

As you can see by the winter weather map below, there are not many places in the U.S. that maintain those average temperatures year round.

Thus, based on this map, it is clear that large tropical constrictors cannot live year-round outside of handful of south eastern states, and thus cannot maintain permanent populations outside of these areas.

As you can see, Texas is not one of those states where they can thrive.

People keep these animals as pets in all climates (although anyone who keeps a snake longer than 8-10 feet is nuts, in my opinion), and often release them when they get too big. So that can happen in any state. But these snakes generally will die as the weather gets colder.


10 posted on 07/12/2014 7:21:36 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: njslim

As da mob sez in Joisey... don’t let’im put the squeeze onya.


11 posted on 07/12/2014 7:23:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Maceman

Could be a green anaconda, in which case waterfront property values may drop as the “Invasive Species” feeding behaviors become widely known.

Perhaps it is not a snake - could it be a relative of ‘Nessy’?

;-)


12 posted on 07/12/2014 7:38:50 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: Maceman

Great news thanks. We have enough snakes on our property already, copperheads, cotton mouths, coral snakes, maybe a small ground rattler or 2 and a variety of non poisonous snakes.

Snakes are the only creatures on earth that I actually enjoy killing. When we lived on the ranch my husband called me “the fat babe” (I wasn’t fat) after a cartoon woman who was always killing snakes.


13 posted on 07/12/2014 7:39:21 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: njslim

http://www.smithsonianc try this

Titanoboa


14 posted on 07/12/2014 7:42:18 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/sc/web/video/titles/16626/titanoboa-vs-t-rex This should be better


15 posted on 07/12/2014 7:43:32 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: Maceman

The controlling factor would likely be the lowest winter refugia temperature to which the snake would be exposed.

Ground temperatures and now basement temperatures are likely the controlling factor.


16 posted on 07/12/2014 7:44:21 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and for what Muslims do.)
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To: njslim
Dang global warming climate change!
17 posted on 07/12/2014 7:51:51 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: Maceman

Not necessarily as its didn’t get to its current size in one season


18 posted on 07/12/2014 7:53:02 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Ditter

I.
Hate.
Snakes!!


19 posted on 07/12/2014 7:53:55 AM PDT by sheana
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To: CGASMIA68
Not necessarily as its didn’t get to its current size in one season

It sure as hell didn't get to its current size living outdoors for years in New Jersey. Even the article says that its likely that it was a pet, obviously owned by an idiot, who released it into the wild.

There is no way that this animal survived last winter living outdoors.

20 posted on 07/12/2014 8:01:37 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Maceman

Plenty of other cold blooded snakes and animals survive the Winter in Northern states. Also, if you believe that this particular snake could not do so, then we would have to assume that someone dropped a 20 foot snake into the lake just this Spring. As unlikely as this whole story seems, that seems even more improbable.


21 posted on 07/12/2014 8:02:20 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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Plenty of other cold blooded snakes and animals survive the Winter in Northern states. Also, if you believe that this particular snake could not do so, then we would have to assume that someone dropped a 20 foot snake into the lake just this Spring. As unlikely as this whole story seems, that seems even more improbable.

Yes, cold blooded snakes do survive in the northeast, because they are able to hibernate. Giant tropical snakes don't do that.

I have kept many pet snakes over the past five decades, including boas and ball pythons. Anyone who has ever kept a tropical snake as a pet knows that keeping their environments warm enough is a critical aspect of their care. In all cases, that minimum temperature is 75 degrees.

Moreover, it is completely plausible that someone dropped a 20 foot snake into an area near the lake, and probably fairly recently given the average temperatures in the Northeast through this past April.

Many (stupid) people keep large snakes and then decide to release them in the wild when they get too big and too expensive to maintain. Or possibly, it escaped.

It is absolutely impossible that a large constrictor survived this past Northeastern winter (or any other winter) in the wild.

22 posted on 07/12/2014 8:10:27 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: njslim

Just post a recipe for chicken fried snake and me ‘n Bubba’ll be right up there.


23 posted on 07/12/2014 8:13:36 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: Ditter
I have heard that these giant snakes are making their way along the Gulf Coast from Florida

I have heard people express concerns this could happen I haven't heard anything like that. The pythons are in the everglades and would have a long ways to go

24 posted on 07/12/2014 8:20:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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yes but they would do pretty good in the swamps of Louisiana. But that is a long ways from the everglades


25 posted on 07/12/2014 8:22:58 AM PDT by plain talk
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“Snakes are cold-blood animals, which means they can’t make their own body heat and thus their body temperature is determined by the surrounding air temperature.”

Darwinian adaptation. Scientists have proven that from one celled animals to humans took only a billion years, so cold blooded to warm blooded should have taken no more than ,what, 10-12 months?


26 posted on 07/12/2014 8:27:37 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: plain talk
yes but they would do pretty good in the swamps of Louisiana. But that is a long ways from the everglades

I suspect you are right, based on the winter weather map I posted in support of my assertions.

27 posted on 07/12/2014 8:32:32 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Maceman

This snake has not been positively ID’d.So know one knows what type it is. Seems everyone is assuming its a Boa from some nit wits un professional observation.

potentially dangerous
CBS 2’s Tracee Carrasco(Snake expert,nope)
animal control officers believe the 15- to 20-foot-long boa constrictor is in the water,(Snake expert,nope)


28 posted on 07/12/2014 8:38:16 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Ditter

They’ll never make it past South Louisiana, the land of, “you kin eat that!” If there’s no season and no limits they’ll be wiped out.


29 posted on 07/12/2014 8:38:57 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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This snake has not been positively ID’d.So know one knows what type it is.

True. But if it is anywhere near 20 feet, it is not a boa constrictor (which is what the article calls it), although it is certainly a tropical species.

30 posted on 07/12/2014 8:41:06 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: sheana

In my world there is no snake that does not deserve a good killing.


31 posted on 07/12/2014 8:41:51 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Maceman

Also,Its probably not 20 feet


32 posted on 07/12/2014 8:42:58 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Sequoyah101

I have snakes here in the stone walls and they keep the chipmunks,ground squirrels and other rodent populations down.We don’t kill them.


33 posted on 07/12/2014 8:44:28 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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If there’s no season and no limits they’ll be wiped out.

Ya being very kind there :)

34 posted on 07/12/2014 8:49:02 AM PDT by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Most snakes are harmless. My friend Henry is a rat snake. He keeps the rodents under control in my barns and keeps other snakes away. Every year I anxiously await the first Henry sighting. I feel much better once I see him, knowing the rattlers won’t be around.


35 posted on 07/12/2014 8:56:40 AM PDT by Himyar
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Actually, it depends, we have Freddie who lives in the barn and keeps the rats at bay. He lives there rent free. It’s the cotton mouth that gets up on the seat of the dozer when it gets stuck in the mud that I want dead.


36 posted on 07/12/2014 9:01:22 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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IT CAN SWIM 25MPH!!!
37 posted on 07/12/2014 9:07:14 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: njslim

This here is Florida.
20 foot boa?
ho hum.


38 posted on 07/12/2014 9:15:46 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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IT CAN SWIM 25MPH!!!

The Snake

39 posted on 07/12/2014 9:34:10 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Sequoyah101

In my world they are all deadly poisonous and deserve to die.


40 posted on 07/12/2014 9:44:37 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Sequoyah101

Watch out there! You are talking about my people........... well MrD’s people actually. :)


41 posted on 07/12/2014 10:03:27 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Keep a shotgun in your truck and you’ll be just fine.


42 posted on 07/12/2014 10:22:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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>>It is absolutely impossible that a large constrictor survived this past Northeastern winter (or any other winter) in the wild. <<

Could one live in the sewer system of a city or underneath an apartment building and feed on rats?


43 posted on 07/12/2014 10:26:51 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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It was an exceptionally cold winter in Jersey this year.

In the town next to me with a high Italian population, almost everyone lost their fig trees due to the cold. The blueberry bushes got hit really hard too. They already have the picking machines in the fields

44 posted on 07/12/2014 10:30:49 AM PDT by mware
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“A” shotgun? You mean just one? shawwwww! This is the UH Ranch you are talking about! :)


45 posted on 07/12/2014 10:35:19 AM PDT by Ditter
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Could one live in the sewer system of a city or underneath an apartment building and feed on rats?

Definitely could live on rats. I don't know anything about the temperature of a sewer system, but if the temperature were in the right range, I suppose so.

46 posted on 07/12/2014 10:35:28 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: njslim

Everyone’s been pretty comical on this thread... I’m heading to Lake Hopatcong for a 10 day stay this coming Wednesday. This has been our summer home for my entire lifetime.

If any Lake Hopatcong Freepers are on this thread: can you tell me about where this thing was spotted? We’ll obviously take precautions but this gives me the willies.


47 posted on 07/12/2014 11:16:18 AM PDT by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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T’all need some gators up there!


48 posted on 07/12/2014 12:15:14 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Ditter

You might find out first whether the boa makes good chili.

Jest sayin’


49 posted on 07/12/2014 12:17:55 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: CGASMIA68

Yes we have snakes here in MTNs NC and they go underground in winter...10-15 below -0- about once a winter...otherwise mild winters.

That said, the snakes come out every summer to play, so why would that big one be any different...I am not a snake person but know they don’t all die in winter.


50 posted on 07/12/2014 12:20:01 PM PDT by Kackikat (ELECTED officials took an OATH...get off your cowardly a$ses and be A PATRIOT now!)
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