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The costly fantasy of impeaching Obama: The way to punish a president is at the polls
The Washington Times ^ | July 14, 2014 | Wesley Pruden

Posted on 07/15/2014 9:12:27 AM PDT by EveningStar

The Democrats owe a growing debt to the Republican red-hots pursuing the fantasy of impeaching Barack Obama. They're collecting a lot of cash -- probably not as much as they claim, but a lot -- from the naive and excitable folks in the Democratic base. Outrage is easily convertible to cash, as every bagman knows, and the Republicans should get a cut of it. Fair is fair.

Sarah Palin, who as a former governor knows better than to confuse hoping with doing, is leading the baying hounds this week. She told an audience the other day that "the many impeachable offenses of President Obama can no longer be ignored. If after all this, he's not impeachable, then no one is."

She's right about that second part. No one is. We've tried impeachment twice, and neither time the weapon worked.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fantasy; impeachment; obama; palin; sarahpalin; uniparty; wesleypruden
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
My old House Rep, Pete Olson, has Articles of Impeachment already drown up!

11-14-2-13

http://olson.house.gov/2013-press-releases/olson-introduces-articles-of-impeachment-against-eric-holder/

21 posted on 07/15/2014 9:27:00 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: EveningStar

#1 - Obama is being accused of vote tampering. That’s one of the reasons why he should be impeached. The IRS scandal is the biggest voter harassment story, but it’s not the only one.

#2 - The President keeps promising to “go it alone” - i.e. without Congress. From immigration to jobs to the environment the President keeps telling us that he will take action if the Congress won’t.

#3 - WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO START FIGHTING THIS GUY???????????????????????????


22 posted on 07/15/2014 9:28:08 AM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: EveningStar

Except for one fact. If impeached, all executive actions are voided. That is an attractive prospect.


23 posted on 07/15/2014 9:28:28 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: dead

Holder gone would unleash the floodgates. Obama might resign.


24 posted on 07/15/2014 9:29:08 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Tzimisce

:: #3 - WHEN IS SOMEONE GOING TO START FIGHTING THIS GUY??????????????????????????? ::

You a racist.
End of discussion.
Shut-up and assimilate.


25 posted on 07/15/2014 9:29:46 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: EveningStar; KC_Lion

Et tu Washington Times?


Sarah Palin, who as a former governor knows better than to confuse hoping with doing, is leading the baying hounds this week.


Leading the baying hounds? She sure gets under a lot of DC skin, doesn’t she?

Oh, and the WT chose a couple of unflattering pics of Sarah to go along with this *piece* on her — they also conveniently included the “most Americans are over Sarah Palin” poll, embedded in this *article*.

Stay classy, WT...you’re coming across more like HuffPo or other lefty sites. Maybe I’ve missed something and this going after Sarah Palin, by the WT, is nothing new.


26 posted on 07/15/2014 9:30:57 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It’s too late for that.

I agree on too late for impeachment and elections.

There is a rogue politician on the loose and he is pushing (I strongly believe) for a physical show down with the people in order to stay in power after 2016.

27 posted on 07/15/2014 9:31:00 AM PDT by llevrok (Straight. Since 1950.)
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To: EveningStar

If he were to be impeached would he still be able to retire on our dime?


28 posted on 07/15/2014 9:35:26 AM PDT by JayAr36 (OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER WHEN THIS A FREE COUNTRY)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
If impeached, all executive actions are voided.

What part of the Constitution is that in?

/johnny

29 posted on 07/15/2014 9:35:32 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: centurion316
Impeachment, as a political act, cannot go forward unless success is assured and success will never be assured without strong public sentiment that favors drastic action.

Seventy Percent of the Public opposed ObamaCare so they should not have gone forward because they couldn't win, is that your position?

30 posted on 07/15/2014 9:38:19 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: MUDDOG
The polls aren't a good bet, as long as people on welfare can vote.

States can remove their right to vote, just like for felons.

Really?

31 posted on 07/15/2014 9:39:28 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Our country is becoming a big Chicago.

Our country has became a big Chicago.

32 posted on 07/15/2014 9:39:31 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: dead
Impeach Holder.

That is the no-brainer, must-do. I don't know why more people aren't talking about THAT.

33 posted on 07/15/2014 9:41:08 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: TexasCajun
The likelyhood of the liberal republicans winning a Senate Majority in November is slipping away with their attacks on conservatives.

Even if the liberal republican leadership had a majority in the Senate, they are liberal. They aren't going to impeach Obama.

/johnny

34 posted on 07/15/2014 9:41:21 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: All

I have yet to hear the roar of impeachment for the fact of protecting the Republic, the Constitution and the Rule of Law.

I note that most posts, and talk, center around the issue of politics in re: impeachment. It’s all what’s good/bad for the XYZ Party (polls or the next vote).

Sad to see such from this board, at the least. I expected as much from the GOP/RNC. Either lay out how the man has overstepped, ruled from on high, acted again the Republic, etc. and go for impeachment (win or lose) or finally admit the Republic and Constitution have long been dead. This is NOT some popularity contest, and I would stand up for anyone willing to go the gambit than stick their finger to the wind while the Country burns in the background.


35 posted on 07/15/2014 9:41:42 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: EveningStar
Wesley Pruden

Another Vichy Republican.

More than willing to surrender before the shot is fired.


36 posted on 07/15/2014 9:43:20 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: TexasCajun

Re: “I agree, we need to wait till we win the Senate in November.”

If the election was held today, we would win only 4 of the 6 Democrat seats we need for a majority.

We also have a very real risk of losing a Republican seat in Kentucky or Georgia.

Link:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/election_2014/battle_for_congress.html


37 posted on 07/15/2014 9:44:42 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: EveningStar

The threat of impeachment was once a major factor in limiting presidential abuse (see Nixon) but that threat is only relevant to Caucasian presidents.


38 posted on 07/15/2014 9:49:58 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: EveningStar
To begin, Obama richly deserves impeachment and removal from office for the high crime of abuse of presidential power. Therefore it is playing into the hands of the Left to poo-poo advocates like Sarah Palin, a private citizen calling for redress of grievances.

In politics, as in so much of life, timing is everything--and to attempt impeachment now, with the current Senate, would be a mistake. It is not a mistake however, for serious voices to speak of impeachment publicly, now, and to address it as a respectable option that could and should be considered. The idea needs to be made valid to the public, whether or not it is ever enacted.

Discussion about impeachment for abuse of power will focus the public on the real issue. It will help to organize peoples' thinking about why Obama is a threat to the nation, clarify the malfeasance that has been perpetrated, and pressure the republican majority to begin to act like a loyal opposition instead of a feckless peanut gallery.

During the Nixon hearings the nation was exposed at times to some truly sober and eloquent discussion of profound issues of governance.

Impeachment hearings on Obama, whether they ever lead to impeachment or not, will be an unrivalled opportunity for serious people to educate the public on what has been done to them by their government while they slept, what are the legitimate restraints on government power that have been abused, and what are the needs for reparation.

39 posted on 07/15/2014 9:52:42 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Paladin2
Articles if Impeachment need to be written and updated as required. They should be published on the web for all to see and be able to consult.

Yes, at the very least.

I would hope that folks here who don't want to proceed with impeachment should at least be for writing articles of impeachment.

40 posted on 07/15/2014 9:52:43 AM PDT by FreeReign
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