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Look Who's Arriving on the NAFTA Train
Townhall.com ^ | July 15, 2014 | Phyllis Schlafly

Posted on 07/15/2014 9:24:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Reagan was sent a message 2 months into his presidency.


21 posted on 07/15/2014 10:12:50 AM PDT by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: boycott

22 posted on 07/15/2014 10:13:29 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Pelham
Aw, did I make fun of one of your heroes?

No trouble defending Ronald Reagan on my part, whatsoever.

23 posted on 07/15/2014 10:14:23 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: make no mistake

Eventually. The destruction of the United States must happen first. Eventually an Agenda 21 Hunger Games style of an existence.


24 posted on 07/15/2014 10:16:21 AM PDT by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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To: 1rudeboy

This was a good line from the article:

“The oversupply of foreigners willing to work for lower wages has made it impossible for average American wages to increase in more than a decade, ....”


I work in an industry where so many jobs have been moved overseas. I go into all types of manufacturing plants throughout North America. There are so many things we used to manufacture here that are now gone. These jobs are gone.


25 posted on 07/15/2014 10:17:20 AM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott
Leading exactly to Schlafly's fallacy: the "oversupply of foreigners willing to work for lower wages" is a result of illegal immigration, not NAFTA. I really do respect her, but I suspect that if NAFTA was abolished tomorrow, a year from now she'd still be wondering why there is a surplus of low-skilled, low-income workers.
26 posted on 07/15/2014 10:22:13 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Have wages kept pace with inflation? No.

http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

There are so many other variables but it certainly hasn’t kept pace.


27 posted on 07/15/2014 10:22:46 AM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

Do you have a particular time-frame in mind, or did you post me that calculator for no reason?


28 posted on 07/15/2014 10:24:30 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: boycott
"It goes back long before Reagan"

Correct, but not long before Reagan,

By the mid 70s the US's competitive advantages in multilateral trade(WTO) had begun to wane so it was decided to shift to bilateral/regional agreements. If Ford had won his election, it probably would have begun with him.

First was with Israel, then the Caribbean Basin Initiative which was very much like the Maquilladora agreement with Mexico that would be replaced under GW Bush by CAFTA. NAFTA started as a bilateral with Canada, then morphed into a trilateral

29 posted on 07/15/2014 10:25:12 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 1rudeboy

Our public schools are creating more than enough low-skilled, low-income workers.


30 posted on 07/15/2014 10:25:31 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Ben Ficklin

Redistribution of wealth goes back a lot of years and both parties can take credit for it.


31 posted on 07/15/2014 10:27:19 AM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

That is true, and not NAFTA’s fault, either.


32 posted on 07/15/2014 10:27:44 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: itsahoot
"Not Texas, Rick Perry"

Incorrect. It actually began with Guv Bill Clements. Because NAFTA was coming he put the ball in motion giving the task to the transportation think tank at UT to come up with a plan. The report was published while GW Bush was Guv but was set aside because he would be running for prez.

Before the TTC project could go forward Texas first had to have a state referendum ending "pay-as-you-go" which was in the constitution. That would be very controversial so they decided to let the next Guv handle it.

33 posted on 07/15/2014 10:37:39 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 1rudeboy

“No trouble defending Ronald Reagan on my part, whatsoever.”

Not a surprise. The 1986 Amnesty was a seriously flawed law that failed in its goal and the treason lobby uses it to demand more of the same.

Patriots find fault with Reagan’s 1986 Amnesty mistake, but of course that wouldn’t include you.


34 posted on 07/15/2014 10:48:45 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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To: 1rudeboy
>>Today there are 25 million more MINIMUM WAGE jobs in the US.<<
35 posted on 07/15/2014 10:54:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Pelham
"I support Ronald Reagan, therefore I support the mistake that Simpson-Mazzoli turned out to be."
/True Conservative™ logic

Seriously, do you ever tire of seeing your strawmen burnt down?

36 posted on 07/15/2014 10:54:18 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: B4Ranch

Uh, ok. Thanks I guess.


37 posted on 07/15/2014 10:55:22 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Inflation accounts for the increase in wages.


38 posted on 07/15/2014 10:56:11 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: B4Ranch

Whoo boy . . . perhaps someone will chance along and explain what the term “real wage” means.


39 posted on 07/15/2014 11:04:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; boycott

“Leading exactly to Schlafly’s fallacy: the “oversupply of foreigners willing to work for lower wages” is a result of illegal immigration, not NAFTA”

Schlafly is right of course, and rudeboy is predictably more concerned with trying to defend a flawed trade bill rather than the border.

NAFTA is directly connected to the huge increase in illegal immigration that followed its passage. One of the earliest effects of NAFTA was the opening of Mexican markets to cheaper American wheat and corn.

This put thousands of small Mexican farms out of business and the newly jobless Mexicans headed north across the US border. INS surveyed the illegals they picked up and the cause of the post-NAFTA surge was well studied.

Since none of the enforcement provisions of the 1986 Amnesty beloved by rudeboy were implemented the flood of NAFTA illegals was free to enter the US. And now the treason lobby wants even more.


40 posted on 07/15/2014 11:08:19 AM PDT by Pelham (California, what happens when you won't deport illegals)
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