Posted on 07/15/2014 9:24:50 AM PDT by Kaslin
I don't think Putin is the second coming. I wouldn't want to be ruled by him but he's definitely not as bad as the Globalist trash says he is.
Read the greyed sentence about averages.
I never tire of exposing the treason lobby.
I once heard someone accuse a libertarian of patriotism. I’m sure you find that accusation as preposterous as I do.
Strawman #2.
And the notion that illegal immigration would not be a problem in the absence of NAFTA is delusional. So those low-skilled, low-income farm workers would be coming despite what Ralph Nader and his fellow-travelers claim.
That is true, and not NAFTAs fault, either.
NAFTA cost us jobs.
All one has to do is consider the textile industry. Hundreds of thousands of jobs have been lost.
All you have to do is go across the border into Mexico and see all the USA companies manufacturing down there — automotive, appliances, etc. The list is long.
Caterpillar has multiple facilities just south of the border. I believe it’s 18. Wasn’t too many years ago that they closed 5 facilities in Mississippi and moved all those jobs to Mexico.
They are paying very low wages for these jobs in Mexico. USA workers have to compete against it. It should be very easy to see that we lost jobs in this deal.
Bill Clinton told us that the low paid 50 year old woman in the textile mill would be retrained with a tech job making more money. That never happened and the jobs weren’t there. This was not too long before the tech crash on Wall Street.
I'm sure you miss Willie Green, too.
So unless you aspire to have your kids working in a garment-sewing factory, or wish to do it yourself . . . .
His charts showing increases in the number of jobs and wage rates since 1994 were clearly flawed thinking. If someone doesn’t think we lost jobs because of NAFTA, they weren’t paying close attention.
Thanks for pinging me. No one said jobs weren’t lost, the charts say that the total number of jobs increased. I know, math is hard.
So unless you aspire to have your kids working in a garment-sewing factory, or wish to do it yourself . . . .
There were a lot of people here working in those jobs. That was all they knew. What about them?
They were replaced by a machine. Been in a textile factory recently?
So does denouncing inconvenient facts as “strawmen” really work for you?
I see that it’s one of your favorites. Probably passes for convincing argument in your weekly ayn rand study group.
Too bad for you that the Clinton era surge of illegals was well studied and even the illegals themselves knew the connection. The inexpensive American grain poured into Mexico and their little farms failed by the thousands.
Just a coincidence I’m sure. Unless you use Occam’s Razor and then it’s not so tough.
I actually don’t point-out strawmen very often . . . just to people too stupid to understand, otherwise.
It’s not a matter of not paying attention.
It’s a matter of dogma. In the church of libertarianism trade is one of the holy sacraments.
Questioning the perfection of NAFTA exposes you as a skeptic and probably an infidel.
” just to people too stupid to understand, otherwise.”
Oh! I’m wounded!
When you run out of argument hurling one feels so good. Playground 101. But then you did name yourself ‘rude boy’...
Well, that explains your first comment to me on this thread. LOLOL
Thanks for pinging me. No one said jobs werent lost, the charts say that the total number of jobs increased. I know, math is hard.
Jobs increased in number by 25 million but the population increased by more than 60 million. Your numbers were pretty meaningless.
You mentioned wage rates going up but you should gotten my point that this chart was also absolutely meaningless.
I tried not to be offensive and I do not wish to continue.
Did it hurt your feelings? I apologize.
Absolutely the opposite: nothing amuses me more than someone who parachutes onto a thread with a personal insult, only to claim later that personal insults indicate that one has no argument.
Then don’t post a comment that we are “trading our jobs for free” on a public forum.
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