Skip to comments.SEALs say Jesse Ventura hit the ground in bar incident
Posted on 07/15/2014 2:16:13 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo
Tuesdays witnesses at Jesse Venturas defamation trial stitched together a scene a California bar that ended with the former governor lying on his back.
The latest witness in the case being heard in U.S. District Court in St. Paul, former SEAL Lt. Cmdr. Andrew Paul, said he saw a commotion, then saw Ventura get up from the patio floor and yell that he was going to kill Chris Kyle.
Afterward, Paul said, Chris told me, Jesse was running his mouth and I punched him.
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Is Chris the guy that is dead now?
Yep. Jesse is suing his wife (estate).
It’s a shame to burden the judicial system with crap like this...just take it out back and be done with it.
Just wait until after it's over, Jessica.
One can only hope. What a dispicable turd Ventura is.
Someone outta punch Jesse Ventura... again.
Turns out he does have time to bleed.
Yep.. before he was just a douchebag.. after he’s just used douche
I sure hope he loses big, maybe it’ll finally shut that big mouth of his up.
Would that Kyle was alive today in order to give us a repeat performance. Hopefully, some SEALs will do just that when the time is right.
All the testimonies agree, Jesse was there, Jesse was running his mouth, and Jesse was on his backside at some point. Is Ventura claiming he fell?
“Someone outta punch Jesse Ventura... again.”
What for? He’s totally out there and the remaining brain cells would just give up. He had a conspiracy show on Syfy years ago and it was total crap. Even I as a Hollywood producer wouldn’t produce a crappy sh*t show.
Ventura, who was never a SEAL for one day, picked the wrong fight with the wrong folks.
What you mean suing the WIDOW of a decorated veteran isn’t good for your public image? Punk!
They did take it out back and Jesse got his butt kicked.
Now he’s crying
Travis, while you are technically correct, he was UDT before SEALs came into being.
“Yep. Jesse is suing his wife (estate).”
Wonderful. What a dirt bag.
What a sorry ass POS Ventura is. As if this poor young woman doesn't have enough to worry about with her husband being gone (deceased.)
A real man would've let it go.
I hope the judge makes him pay her legal costs.
You know. Jesse could play the monster in the remake of Young Frankenstein.
Jesse needs to plead insanity ....its obvious
Jesse served from ‘69-’75. UDT and SEALs existed at the same time but had separate duties.
I watched Jessie pop off to a Vikings running back (can’t remember his name but he was much smaller than JV) at a golf tournament - I was behind the bar - The Running back told Jessie in no certain terms to ‘knock it off.’
Jessie kept it up and the guy grabbed Jessie - who held onto the bar (which almost got pulled over - we pulled back) then Jessie got shoved up a chimney until he apologized.
yep... heard him on Medved a couple of months ago..kept stating he was in Mexico, living “off the grid”...he sounded completely nuts.
He’s living of his meds, not the grid.
Watch him some time. He either has Parkinson’s or is trying to get jiggy with it.
He could have a nice chat about meds with Marx Dayton...
Go to Jesse’s Facebook page. Its a hate fest. He is destroying himself because he cannot admit another guy punched his ticket. I have zero respect for the guy. He is a joke now.
“Jesse served from 69-75. UDT and SEALs existed at the same time but had separate duties.”
Yes, I know that. UDT were still bad dudes. ;-)
When I was stationed in Charleston, South Carolina the UDT guys used to run past our building every morning. There was a short, fat, Chief with a big ol’ beer gut and grey hair who always ‘led’ them. He ran backwards, called cadence and would belittle the young guys who looked frazzled, tired and out of breath. ;-)
I didn’t realize what the suit is actually about. Ventura is saying his reputation was damaged because Chris said in his book that he knocked Ventura on his ass. He says there wasn’t even a fight, thus he didn’t get his ass kicked. I think he loses. The whole thing is he believes no one thinks he’s a tough guy anymore. So, he wants to prove he’s a tough guy by suing a widow. The man is nuts!
Jesse just learned a lesson late in life.
Screw yourself Ventura. You were NOT a S.E.A.L. . I don’t know too many squids that would sue a dead man and his wife for knocking him on his keister. He is a closet democrat... how can I tell? Simple... he has NO HONOR.
Yup, me and She Who Must Be Obeyed went to his service here in Dallas over at the Boss Hawg Bowl last year. It was on my birthday and quite moving. I have since read his books. Top shelf Frogman, not like He Who Has No Credibility.
Ventura is an old hag. Not worthy to wipe Kyle’s butt.
Sorry, that should have been “over in Arlington” not “here in Dallas.”
Don’t make a fool out of yourself. He WAS a Seal.
I too think he’s an ass. But a UDT at the time was a Seal, though one that may not have had additional jump training and the like. Sort of like saying the Delta Force isn’t Army — well, they are all Army guys who are under JSOC.
The only fools on this thread are you and Jessie Ventura.
Matt Bracken aka Travis McGee established his bona fides as former SEAL long ago on this board and in public.
You didn't have the common sense to check his FR profile here on FreeRepublic available with two simple and easy clicks of your mouse. That sort of laziness speaks of an undisciplined mind much like Ventura's which landed said fraud on his keister. Best stay away from bars in the vicinity of Little Creek or Coronado.
Oh, he was a SEAL, was he? What SEAL Team was he assigned to when he was a SEAL?
Was his enlisted designator 5321 (UDT) or 5326 (SEAL)?
Tell me exactly when he was a SEAL, and where, fool.
Don’t waste my time with, “But UDT was just like SEAL team, so they were SEALs.” Wrong answer, fool.
High Five, MG01.
This old article is the best I’ve ever read on it.
If true, then what Kyle stated in his book must also be true:
As a soldier, his service was commendable but he should have left it at that.
There's nothing impressive about a drunk suckerpuncher who hits the door after delivering his blow instead of standing up like a man and finishing the fight.........
He already admitted to dashing out the door once after the sucker punch, what makes you think he would give Ventura an even chance?
He went to Buds. He’s a Seal. Your distinction is meaningless. Not all Seals (or Seal teams) do the exact same job.
Go argue with all these people:
“On May 1, 1983, all UDTs were redesignated as SEAL Teams or Swimmer Delivery Vehicle Teams (SDVT). SDVTs have since been redesignated SEAL Delivery Vehicle Teams.”
Please explain to me what the difference was between UDT operators in the early ‘70s and the early ‘80s. It seems that NSW simply decided to redesignate — not require them to go back through all the training again as any non-Seal would presumably have to go through. They didn’t do that for former Army cooks or other service members who enlisted in the Navy.
What specific Seal Team were the original members of Seal Team 6 on right after they joined that unit? 6 wasn’t the official Seal team designation at the time. Were those guys not Seals either because no one could say what specific Seal Team they were on? You are essentially arguing that Pontiac is not a GM product because it isn’t a separate brand RIGHT NOW. Well, it WAS a brand and WAS a GM product.
You can try and shout me down, but it won’t work. Pretty childish as well as foolish. Unless you can show me someone from NSW who would put in writing that Ventura was NOT a Seal and did not go to Bud/s, you’re incorrect.
“He went to Buds. Hes a Seal. Your distinction is meaningless.”
You’re a moron and a jerk, and I don’t throw those terms around lightly. I was assigned to both a UDT Team and two SEAL teams, how about you, expert?
So, what SEAL team was fake SEAL Ventura assigned to?
Foreign officers and others attend BUD/S. They are NOT SEALs if they graduate. They are graduates of BASIC UDT/SEAL training. They are NOT SEALs.
Ditto non-Army troops going to Ranger school. If they make it, they are graduates of Ranger school. They are NOT RANGERS.
Why am I arguing with some pimple-faced fatty in his underwear in his mommy’s basement, surrounded by ‘Rasslin posters of his hero?
SEAL is not a brand. UDT is not a brand.
They are levels of achievement and U.S. Navy service-acknowledged qualifications for two different, though sometimes operationally-inter-mingled (ie for the duration of a mission/operation), military duties.
UDT members redesignated (in 1983) as SEAL team operations members (note the choice of words), underwent SEAL training and additional training, to meet “service-acknowledged qualifications” to be SEAL team members.
Being a participant in some SEAL operation, does not make one a SEAL team member.
Redesignation in 1983, was not retroactive for discharged and inactive-duty (ie out of the service) UDT members, given public information available to date.
Only formal U.S. Navy acknowledgement of qualifications make one a SEAL team member. The same was true for UDT.
Jesse Ventura’s somewhat over-sensitivity of his imagining that he’s been looked down upon for not qualifying to be a SEAL, has diverted his mind from where he has otherwise had a life to live. Nothing that he does, can make him a SEAL. He still has time to go on and do good ... and even be a hero for some kids / people somewhere, someday, who need him.
If he would focus on that, instead of what he “could a been.”
Whatever are some wrongs that Jesse Ventura now wishes to right, in his view, are costing him time and money, neither which he has ... and neither will he likely gain in court, no matter the court decision.
Jesse Ventura sees a lot of life as being adversarial; some group v. some other group; there are sides. That’s a political trap, and it’s one of the ball-and-chain imprisonments attached to the followers of socialism, like false pride.
Your school v. the other school, instead of realizing that life is something else.
In the trap, Jesse Ventura is caught in the desire to win *the contest.* He may also be listening too much to some people who know how to egg him on; and they don’t care about the outcome.
When winning, for the remainder of his life, has to do with enduring the struggle for food, clothing, and shelter and maintaining ways to keep up that work, while also pursuing forgiveness.
PS. In formal public relations issuance, Jesse Ventura has not claimed to be a SEAL.
Your argument is completely ignorant and wrong. UDT and SEAL has different training. BUD/S is just the first step of many. UDT and SEAL diverged in training after BUD/S. Only later, long after macho coward laid claim to it, did the Navy combine the two and get rid of UDT as a designation.
As Matt said, many guys, Marines included, that attended Ranger school are not Army Rangers. They just went there. Cross department training happens all the times but the trainee is not awarded recognition in most cases.
Maybe this is just me, but SEALs are taught there is no such thing as a “fair fight”. Win. Period.