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I Hate Ayn Rand — But Here's Why my Fellow Conservatives Love Her
The Week ^ | July 23, 2014 | Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry

Posted on 07/24/2014 7:25:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 07/24/2014 7:25:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; AmericanGirlRising; ...

Rand ping.


2 posted on 07/24/2014 7:29:02 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: nickcarraway

I think Rand is a great author, but the world has changed so much recently.

America cannot “shrug”, unless we want China to take everything away from us.

We need to compete. Bigtime. Buy American.


3 posted on 07/24/2014 7:31:24 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: nickcarraway
This means that, much like democracy, capitalism is a deeply morally righteous system. …
What part of the Christian spectrum does the author fall on?
4 posted on 07/24/2014 7:31:54 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nickcarraway
It's been said that Atlas Shrugged is the most influential book of all time, after the Holy Bible.

Of course leftists hate her, because her works completely dismantled their arguments.

5 posted on 07/24/2014 7:33:09 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Would be nice if that were enough. But we do need a resurgence of moral righteousness, otherwise we merely sow our seed in vain. We don’t need God fighting against us.


6 posted on 07/24/2014 7:33:42 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Publius

I tried 3 times to read Atlas Shrugged. I failed.
I did however read The Fountainhead ... twice!


7 posted on 07/24/2014 7:35:22 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: nickcarraway

I read this yesterday and it makes sense.


8 posted on 07/24/2014 7:36:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: Liberty Valance; Billthedrill
Buy the book that Billthedrill and I wrote -- Who is John Galt? -- and read it at the same time as Atlas Shrugged. It's an exceptional companion to the book. By the time you're done, you will understand it.
9 posted on 07/24/2014 7:37:34 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

I do not love her or hate her.

Her story had a huge amount of shlock and way too much talking. Her “good guys” were immoral cardboard cut outs.

But

She pegged the bad guys. Government and crony capitalists and lefty weenies of all stripes.


10 posted on 07/24/2014 7:38:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: nickcarraway
Like the author, my problems with Rand are her views of altruism and empathy. No great civilization has been founded or sustained without heroes believing in things greater than self, and willing to subordinate their, "self interest," to what Rand decries as the notion of, "greater good."

I often wonder if put in a position to do so, would Rand have sacrificed her life to defend and sustain her beliefs and world view? If she would have, then she would have betrayed the very beliefs she was defending, and if she declined to do so, then she would have allowed others to run slipshod over them.

I just don't see her pledging her life, her fortune and her sacred honor (if she even believed in such a thing) with the same eagerness or zeal that our founders did.

11 posted on 07/24/2014 7:38:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Publius
Thanks Publius, when I get some spare cash I will get your book!

And it's dedicated to JimRob I see!

12 posted on 07/24/2014 7:40:33 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: nickcarraway
I love this Ayn Rand quote:

"The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." ~Ayn Rand

I use that quote as a response to this. It drives my liberal friends nuts.

"Any African-American who votes Republican is a turncoat.” ~ Jesse Jackson

13 posted on 07/24/2014 7:40:49 PM PDT by South40 (Hillary Clinton was a "great secretary of state". - Texas Governor Rick Perry)
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To: KC_Lion

Without JimRob and FR it never would have happened.


14 posted on 07/24/2014 7:41:00 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius
So you really compiled F.R's Discussions into a book?!

WOW!

Free Republic truly IS the primer Conservative Website.

15 posted on 07/24/2014 7:43:28 PM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The point is that we live in a country that now openly despises free enterprise and individual expression. We will fall to China if we cannot change this insanity and get back to a free and visionary society once more.


16 posted on 07/24/2014 7:49:44 PM PDT by formosa
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I’m just saying.

Last year Americans bought 440 billion in goods etc, from China.

Last year Chinese bought 122 billion in goods etc, from America.

This has been going on now, for four administrations.

Buy American. :D


17 posted on 07/24/2014 7:52:10 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: nickcarraway
Clueless. You can criticize Rand for any number of things but if

There is no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is to crack down on criminals. When there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking the law.

doesn't inspire you, and doesn't go through your head every time some new nanny-government regulation affects you personally--then I don't think you can call yourself a conservative.

18 posted on 07/24/2014 7:54:35 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("World History is not full of good governments, or of good voters either "--P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Publius

Why would someone put so much effort into hating a long dead person?


19 posted on 07/24/2014 7:57:25 PM PDT by ully2
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It's been said that Atlas Shrugged is the most influential book of all time, after the Holy Bible.

I could certainly agree with that statement.

Many Christians have an issue with Rand as a whole because of her professed atheism. That by itself does not mean Rand is incapable of declaring one economic system immoral while another is moral.

BTW I'm a Christian. I completed reading Atlas Shrugged long before I completed reading my Bible. I would absolutely admit that Atlas Shrugged shaped much of my political and economic world view while the Bible shaped my moral and spiritual world view.

None of those world views are incompatible and I've no issues resolving and placing Rand's views in political and economic context which is really where they belong.

I just get tired of Christian's who declare her political, economic and moral objectivism views "irrelevant" because she's an atheist. Those are the folks who've typically not read a single page of Atlas Shrugged.

20 posted on 07/24/2014 7:59:51 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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