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Who Is Most To Blame For Climate Change?
NPR ^ | July 24, 2014 | by BARBARA J. KING

Posted on 07/25/2014 7:29:21 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Here in southeastern Virginia, our biggest city, Norfolk, is saddled with an unwanted claim to fame. Norfolk is the place "where normal tides have risen 1.5 feet over the past century and the sea is rising faster than anywhere else on the East Coast."

NPR notes that the Norfolk area "is particularly vulnerable because the land is sinking as sea levels are rising."

As we frequently discuss here at 13.7, human-caused (anthropogenic) climate change is a global problem.

Surprisingly, at least to me, the evidence points to a narrative of universal blame, instead of one in which the "big countries" (as islanders call the industrialized nations) are called out.

After considering and dismissing a number of other explanations, Rudiak-Wanker concludes that the answer can be found in the Marshallese perspective on cultural decline, the idea that the local culture is deteriorating as people increasingly leave traditional practices behind in favor of foreign ways.

When we look hard at what's happening for each of us locally in terms of altered weather patterns or coastlines or patterns of flora and fauna, and share that information, the global picture starts to come together. The idea is not to play the blame game, but rather to focus on how various cultures and individuals process the frightening realities of a climate-change-suffused future, and to determine what can be done to alter the course we are on.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climategate; hoax; marxism; socialism
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To: defconw

All these questions are the reason why they are not able to get a reasonably accurate computer model for climate. TOO Many variable to account for.

What you say is accurate, but also the fact is that cloud cover, water vapor, is the most prominent. As the ice caps melt more clouds and more water vapor is absorbed into the atmosphere more clouds would blanket the planet. At first it would trap heat, but after a period of time would it then begin to block sunshine lowering the temperature causing the ice caps to reform?

It is NOT SCIENCE at all it is pseudoscience.


41 posted on 07/25/2014 8:06:35 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Teacher317

Exactly! Trade through sea travel is as old as civilization itself. Yet, we have scene ports of call that have been virtually unchanged since the days of ancient Rome.


42 posted on 07/25/2014 8:09:32 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: GreenAccord

Now it is called GLOBAL CLIMATE DISRUPTION. An even more ominous yet completely meaningless term.


43 posted on 07/25/2014 8:10:59 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

What’s a “Rudiak”? And if I have one and can find the damn thing, can I Wank it?


44 posted on 07/25/2014 8:15:41 AM PDT by metesky (My investment program is holding steady @ $0.05 cents a can.)
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To: metesky

lol


45 posted on 07/25/2014 8:19:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Dear NPR,

Your Mama.


46 posted on 07/25/2014 8:25:25 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: Jim from C-Town
Interesting. I know when I was in elementary school, long about the first "Earth Day" So you know I am old! They tried to scare us in to believing that we would have a new ice age. Then Gore came along and taking one crackpot theory from a class that he got a D in, this global warming stuff came about. Now they are calling it climate change because we successfully mocked the term "global warming". But calling it climate change is just retarded. Of course the climate changes! Is that not the normal MO of any system?

I am not an expert in science by any means, but how can people who know better stay silent?

I have some other questions as well. These wind mills have they actually made the planet windier? Wind speeds in some areas have actually increased. A roofer told me about how the wind test standards have gone up in the area he's in, in the last 20 years. Now the variable< is this because the insurance companies and the government have raised the standard or is it because the wind has increased? I need to research wind speeds during the last ice age.

Solar power. Solar panels are said to kill birds. They probably have something to do with our honey bee problem as well. So if they are frying birds and bugs, should we not be looking for ways to harness that energy? Because if all that heat is coming off the panels and reflecting back into the sky would that not cause a change of sorts?

I have tried to google this stuff. But I can't get any real data because of all the junk science out there. Anyone here really know the facts on these things?

47 posted on 07/25/2014 8:30:14 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Westbrook
I think they are talking about the volume of ice/water on land that would melt and raise the sea level.

The Antarctic continent ice sheet is the largest volume followed by Greenland. If you were to add up the volume of ice in all the glaciers that is probably a large number.

48 posted on 07/25/2014 8:33:08 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

> I think they are talking about the volume of ice/water on
> land that would melt and raise the sea level.

Yes, but there is no land under the Arctic ice cap.

> The Antarctic continent ice sheet is the largest volume
> followed by Greenland. If you were to add up the volume of
> ice in all the glaciers that is probably a large number.

But the Antarctic ice sheet has been GROWING, not melting, and there isn’t enough ice in all of Greenland to raise the tides in Norfolk by 1.5 inches, let alone 1.5 feet. This is nonsense.


49 posted on 07/25/2014 8:36:13 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: defconw

> I am not an expert in science by any means, but how can
> people who know better stay silent?

They are not silent.

They are ignored, ridiculed, castigated, ostracized, defunded, and destroyed.


50 posted on 07/25/2014 8:37:39 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

Sad, that’s what the Nazi’s did to their scientists that would not toe the line. We made out on that deal, Einstein etc. Don’t know who wins on this one.


51 posted on 07/25/2014 8:40:00 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

Since God created the sun, it’s God’s fault.

Only time but before leftists include this in their attack on Him.


52 posted on 07/25/2014 8:50:45 AM PDT by newfreep (at)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It's all the Raisin Bran dude's fault.
53 posted on 07/25/2014 8:56:25 AM PDT by MCH
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To: Westbrook; Banjoguy

You are correct if it’s sea ice that you’re talking about. However, much of the ice on earth is locked into glaciers in Antarctica. This ice is NOT currently in the world’s oceans. Therefore, melting of the Antarctic ice would result in higher sea levels. It’s true that melting the ice cube in your glass doesn’t cause the water level to rise. However, taking an ice cube from outside your glass, melting it and putting the water in your glass most certainly does cause the level to go up.


54 posted on 07/25/2014 9:16:14 AM PDT by stremba
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The Sun?


55 posted on 07/25/2014 9:50:54 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$$$$ DEFUND OBAMA! $$$$$$$$$)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

ol’ sol


56 posted on 07/25/2014 10:04:33 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
God. Who created

That Lucky Old Sun, who got nothin' to do
but roll around Heaven all day...

57 posted on 07/25/2014 2:02:58 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: stremba

> You are correct if it’s sea ice that you’re talking about

Yes, of course.

See my reply in http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3184893/posts?page=49#49

The Antarctic ice is GROWING, not melting.


58 posted on 07/25/2014 4:54:43 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Who Is Most To Blame For Climate Change?"

The LMSM writers of global warming articles who are no longer sufficiently knowledgeable in the subjects they write about to question the information they given nor the credentials of those who provide it.
59 posted on 07/26/2014 4:35:35 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who Is Most To Blame For Climate Change?

Him. Sure, he makes nice breakfast sandwiches, but it's all a ruse, I tell ya!


60 posted on 07/26/2014 4:41:50 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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