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Policy Memo: A Good Deal Is Better Than No Deal (Is this a threat)
NIA Council ^ | 7/17/14 | parisi

Posted on 07/26/2014 4:14:45 PM PDT by mgist

Washington, DC – Failure to reach a nuclear deal with Iran will not lead to a continuation of the current status quo, but rather a deterioration of the situation with severe military, economic and security consequences. This is the conclusion of a new NIAC Policy Memo published today analyzing the consequences of a diplomatic failure between the U.S. and Iran.

The Policy Memo will be presented today at an event at the Atlantic Council in Washington, DC at 2.30pm.

The military consequences of not reaching a comprehensive nuclear deal with Iran have been clearly defined by the White House: “You close the door on diplomacy, and you’re left only with a choice between a possible military option or Iran steadily advancing its nuclear program.”

But fully eliminating Tehran’s nuclear program – as some in Congress advocate – will require a U.S. invasion and occupation of Iran. This will involve at least 500,000 U.S. troops and a 10-year occupation. Moreover, it will lead to the death of thousands of U.S. service women and men, tens of thousand wounded, and millions disabled – more than the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.

“Nothing demonstrates the effects of a deal more so than the fact that talk of war during these last 6 months of the interim deal has essentially been reduced to zero,” said NIAC president Trita Parsi.

The economic consequences will be devastating too. The cost of a full-scale invasion and occupation of Iran – in the first three months alone – is estimated at $2.8 trillion.

On the nuclear front, rather than reduce the threat of Iran’s nuclear program, the Iranians are likely to escalate their nuclear activities under no deal – and if attacked, an Iranian nuclear bomb will become a near-certainty.

The international reaction to the collapse of talks will also be important. If the U.S. is deemed responsible for the failure of diplomacy, then the international sanctions regime is likely to unravel. This would break the international consensus the Obama administration carefully built up against Iran.

Beyond the military and economic impact on Iran, diplomatic failure will have a profound impact on the future direction of Iran’s domestic and foreign policies.

If Rouhani has nothing to show for his diplomatic efforts, the political pendulum will swing back in favor of the hardliners. Iran will likely become more repressive internally and more assertive externally. Pro-democracy activists and human rights defenders in Iran warn that they will suffer perhaps their greatest blow yet, potentially setting back their struggle a full generation.

“Clarity about the consequences of failing to reach a deal must exist in order not to let the perfect become the enemy of the good,” said NIAC Research Director Reza Marashi. “Rather than adhering to the mantra of ‘No deal is better than a bad deal,’ the inverse relationship must be considered: A good nuclear deal is better than war.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: iran; johnkerry; lurch; niacouncil; russia
Obama has been playing footsie with Iran all along. He made a lot of promises before getting elected in 2008. Obama Envisions New Iran Approach -November 2, 2007 By MICHAEL R. GORDON and JEFF ZELENY http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/us/politics/02obama.html?pagewanted=all

This was always concerning to me because I know that Iran funded Chavez' campaign with millions in the 90's. Venezuela became the biggest narco distributor in the world. The rest of Latin America fell into becoming narco nations as well. Hezbollah is all over the region.

State Department Reports Hezbollah Increasing Drug and Terrorism in South America 2013 http://interamericansecuritywatch.com/exporting-terror-in-americas-backyard/

"There has indeed been a “marked resurgence” of Iranian state sponsorship of terrorism over the past 18 months. But as the new Nisman report drives hom, here’s an even more disturbing fact — Iran has run intelligence networks in the United States’ backyard to “sponsor, foster and execute terrorist attacks” for decades."

"Criminal plans" by Iran could be under way in Brazil, Colombia, Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay Suriname and Trinidad and Tobago, the report said. http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/03/world/americas/iran-latin-america/

Mexican Cartels Buying Afghan Heroin http://www.banderasnews.com/1101/nr-afghanheroin.htm

The US has become a Narco Nation, we have a national heroin epidemic, God only knows what kind of terrorist risks we are really facing other than our own treasonous President, so what does Iran want now?

1 posted on 07/26/2014 4:14:45 PM PDT by mgist
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To: mgist
The US has become a Narco Nation, we have a national heroin epidemic, God only knows what kind of terrorist risks we are really facing other than our own treasonous President…

This and the points you outlined elsewhere in your reply make compelling arguments in favor of legalizing drugs.


2 posted on 07/26/2014 4:25:07 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: mgist
I should add that many Americans of Iranian heritage have outed the NIAC as a mouthpiece for the Iranian regime.

Iranian.com

"Regime change

NIAC does not represent all Iranian Americans April 22, 2005 iranian.com

Much like you, I was excited to see an organization established several years ago to voice the concerns of Iranian Americans. I assumed some wealthy immigrants from our community decided to chip in and help establish a force to support our interests. After all so many other minorities have similar national organizations ... it seemed a good move now that our numbers have grown in the United States. We truly have been victims of discrimination, and do need to have greater participation in public forums. But recently, I have begun to suspect the motives of the National Iranian American Council (NIAC). My suspicions were finally tipped when I received an email this past week, informing me that 80% of the Iranian-Americans they had communicated with, wanted NO CHANGE IN THE REGIME IN IRAN. This was in response to the US house's recent bill making regime change in Iran, the official policy of the United States."

3 posted on 07/26/2014 4:34:24 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: nathanbedford

Drugs are already legal. We have heroin, marijuana, and every other form of addictive opiates available in Rx form.

The Truth About the Rockefeller Drug Empire: The Drug Story
http://www.whale.to/b/ruesch.html#The%20Purchase%20of%20Public%20Opinion
By Hans Ruesch

“The horrific toll of America’s heroin ‘epidemic”
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26672422
America’s Heroin Epidemic -BBC 2014

House Votes to Allow Marijuana Related Banking 7/16/2014
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/house-supports-easier-marijuana-related-banking-24588337

Wall Street has given more to Obama’s Political Campaign than Any Other Politician in History.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&=&v=zt3vwWfP-EA

Dirty doctors, Russian mafia fueling legal Rx drug and heroin abuse in N.J., investigation finds
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/07/nj_state_commission_of_investigation_prescription_drug_heroin_abuse.html

Opiates are now the leading cause of accidental deaths, surpassing car crashes and alcohol. http://elitedaily.com/news/world/prescription-painkillers-overtake-car-crashes-leading-accidental-death-us/

Banks Laundering Cartel Drug Money -Rampant
http://www.globalresearch.ca/money-laundering-and-the-drug-trade-the-role-of-the-banks/5334205


4 posted on 07/26/2014 4:42:55 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: mgist
The military consequences of not reaching a comprehensive nuclear deal with Iran have been clearly defined by the White House: “You close the door on diplomacy, and you’re left only with a choice between a possible military option or Iran steadily advancing its nuclear program.”

The word "comprehensive" is always a red flag. Even before I read it, I knew the Iran negotiations would be full of disastrous concessions in return for trivial feel good promises from Iran. With that word, we know that Obama's people know how hollow the negotiations are too. Their purpose isn't even to split the difference and reduce the Iranian nuclear threat. The purpose is merely to perpetuate the threat but create a positive story that plays well among the antisemitic liberal base. The West is in grave danger.

5 posted on 07/26/2014 4:49:20 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: mgist

I should also add that Senator Jay Rockefeller from W. Virginia, a pretend Republican, insisted on ending sanctions against Iran. The Rockefeller family has been accused of investing their fortunes in almost complete control of the Pharmaceutical industries, and introducing harmful narcotics.


6 posted on 07/26/2014 4:50:41 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: mgist
Even more compelling arguments for legalization.


7 posted on 07/26/2014 4:55:38 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Pollster1

I agree. I don’t think people realize that Iran is our biggest threat right now. They have operatives all over the region. They bought Carter, Chavez, and probably Obama via Soros.

They are not alone. They are aligned with Russia, Qatar, and the UAE, despite pretense otherwise.

Their control over the media can be seen as the MSM villifies and blames Israel for Palestinian violence. Rockefeller’s support Iran. I’m sure Soros does too.


8 posted on 07/26/2014 4:57:34 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: nathanbedford

Total bullshit, and you know it - unless you’re ‘under the influence’....


9 posted on 07/26/2014 5:38:56 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: Pollster1

Soros Funded Iranian Regime Group Crafts Obama’s Iranian Policy
Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:30

(Before It’s News)
This explains a lot:

A ruling handed down on September 13th by the D.C. District Federal Court has finally made clear what many have known for years–that the Obama Administration’s Iran policy was initiated and advanced by a group with illicit, hidden ties to the Iranian Regime and financed by the U.S./Israel- hating George Soros.

In 2009, Barack Obama turned over virtually all responsibility and authority for foreign policy negotiations with Iran to Trita Parsi and his National Iranian American Council (NIAC). Founded by Parsi in 2003, the Washington-based NIAC is a powerful lobbying group that is “…widely considered the de facto lobby for the Iranian Regime in America.”
Like too many organizations that claim to represent the best interests of the nation of Iran and Iranian-Americans, the NIAC is tightly connected with and known to be funded at least in part by the George Soros empire. Small wonder NIAC advice on dealing with Iran was replete with claims that Israeli propaganda was responsible for the negative image imposed on otherwise peace-loving, misunderstood Iranian mullahs. Not exactly a friend of Israel is George Soros.

And how did the reputedly “non-partisan” NIAC suggest the Obama Administration proceed with negotiations? Simple. The Council “…opposes sanctions on Iran, soft-pedals any controversial events in Iran, and counsels “patience” regarding Iran’s stance towards its nuclear program.”
What better way for NIAC representatives to serve their hidden masters in Tehran than by promoting a policy of “peaceful coexistence” between the US and Iran. And to the NIAC, peaceful coexistence meant “…acceptance of [the] Iranian government, accepting Iranian hegemony in the Gulf and its place in other parts of the Middle East, removal of sanctions and pressure against Iran, abandon of assistance to the Iranian people’s resistance against the regime and etc.”
Read the rest.

2012-09-30 03:20:41
Source: http://www.red-alerts.com/comintern/soros-funded-iranian-regime-group-crafts-obamas-iranian-policy/


10 posted on 07/26/2014 5:52:31 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: ErnBatavia
My argument is simple, the costs incurred while losing a hopeless war on drugs are not just related to the obvious ones of cost of incarceration, costs of policing, costs of broken families, costs of corruption, it also includes opening us up to terrorism attack while it funds terrorists.

We go on and on, losing and losing our civil society, our treasury, our standing in the world, our national security, all in the name of a hopeless war on drugs that is self defeating by its terms: the more it succeeds the more it jacks up the price of drugs making it more attractive to engage in the sale of drugs. So the more it succeeds the more it fails.

Those who want to continue along this path until our entire society is degraded invariably do so while tranducing those who oppose this madness as being potheads, or in this case, "under the influence."


11 posted on 07/26/2014 5:53:59 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
Has Murder been eradicated? Ok, we should just legalize it then.

You don't have the guts for vigilance and your Drug appreciation will
do more Damage to America than Obama. Go back to the DU zone with your legalizing BS.

And I don't really give a damn what your excuses are, you are wrong.
Period.

12 posted on 07/26/2014 6:01:43 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: mgist

EXCLUSIVE: Iran advocacy group said to skirt lobby rules (NAIC)
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By Eli Lake-The Washington Times Friday, November 13, 2009

Read more: http://p.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/13/exclusive-did-iranian-advocacy-group-violate-laws/#ixzz38cu76cLp


13 posted on 07/26/2014 6:04:07 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: MaxMax
And I don't really give a damn what your excuses are, you are wrong.

Period.

I don't give a double damn.

Now, we have really advanced the argument haven't we?

But maybe avoiding the discussion on the merits was your real intention in getting personal.


14 posted on 07/26/2014 6:08:26 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: mgist
I should also add that Senator Jay Rockefeller from W. Virginia, a pretend Republican

Senator Jay Rockefeller is a Democrat.

15 posted on 07/26/2014 6:17:43 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: MaxMax

Exactly! Other than funding world despots, Soros’ dedicated to imposing legalization, and feeding into the needs of those who wish to enslave us, drugs are tools used in wars to manipulate soldiers and destroy civilations.

http://www.thefix.com/content/10-wars-and-drugs-defined-them7413#slide1

10 Wars and the Drugs That Defined Them
From booze to speed to heroin, drugs have been as big a part of military conflict as bullets. As the opium trade flourishes amidst the combat in Afghanistan today, The Fix looks back at history’s druggiest wars.


16 posted on 07/26/2014 6:34:55 PM PDT by mgist (.)
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To: mgist

John Kerry said on last week’s Fox News Sunday With Chris Wallace, that “...a BAD deal is better than no deal at all” regarding the 4 month extension of the nuclear talks with Iran.

WTF?


17 posted on 07/26/2014 9:57:06 PM PDT by HotHunt
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks mgist. Look, another 'study' penned by an Obama-appointed jihadist:
But fully eliminating Tehran’s nuclear program – as some in Congress advocate – will require a U.S. invasion and occupation of Iran. This will involve at least 500,000 U.S. troops and a 10-year occupation.
Ridiculous. Beheading the monstrous regime, and obliterating the compounds housing the many thugs (many of whom are Arabs from various places, including 'Palestine') along with the thugs themselves, and snuffing the mullahs, while taking over all broadcast media in the country, will lead to the overthrow of the 'revolution'. Before the interim gov't has everything handed over to them, all of the sites are destroyed after the nuclear material has been seized, and all the scientists and techs involved (except for the foreign ones -- they'd be turned over to the new regime for trial and execution, and their images, names, and nationalities flashed to world media) shot once in the head.
18 posted on 07/27/2014 12:01:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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