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Fears grow of Ebola spreading to Europe
AFP ^ | 7/30/14 | Robin Millard

Posted on 07/30/2014 7:23:40 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

Doctors Without Borders (MSF) warned the crisis gripping Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone would only get worse and could not rule out it spreading to other countries.

The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) has met global health officials on implementing measures to halt the spread of the disease, as the pan-African airline ASKY suspended all flights to and from the capitals of Liberia and Sierra Leone.

Meanwhile the European Union allocated an extra two million euros ($2.7 million) to fight the outbreak, bringing total EU funding to 3.9 million euros

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: ebola; eu; europe; msf
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To: TangledUpInBlue

All flights in and out of active Ebola zones should be stopped.

Ebola’s more dangerous in the United States and Europe than in Africa because the way our cities are constructed.

One person in a thirty story Miami condo could kill 90% of their neighbors. Same with large office buildings in New York or Berlin. When residents realize they’ll die from secondary contract in an elevator... contracting the disease from the buttons on the elevator - then realize there no place for them to hide from the virus - they’ll panic. Some will pack up and go ‘home’ - back to aging parents in single family homes... And the virus will spread like wildfire.

On the lighter brighter side most of the people living in expensive inner city high rises are liberal elites... (just kidding - no, we don’t want liberal elites to die horrible deaths...)

Oh, and medical personnel will die first...


21 posted on 07/30/2014 8:53:55 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal elites want immigrants as servants providing cheap labor, drugs, and competition for jobs.)
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To: Kartographer

Ebola has already been to the US in the Reston, VA strain. There are many strains of Ebola, from Sudan, Zaire, Ivory Coast...

I’m not sure what strain is primarily responsible for this outbreak but a mortality rate of 60% for Sudan or Ivory Coast is pretty much the norm.

Zaire is the most lethal - and that mortality rate is 80-90%. But those rates are also from larger outbreaks in the 1970s when we didn’t know as much about VHF’s as we do now.


22 posted on 07/30/2014 8:55:33 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: GOPJ

Ebola is not spread that way. It’s infectious, not contagious. You need direct contact with bodily fluids of an infected person.

Ebola virus particles degrade when exposed to light in less than a minute. Transmission has to be direct - blood to blood, saliva to saliva, vomit to blood or cut.

You can’t get it from an elevator button.


23 posted on 07/30/2014 8:57:37 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: GOPJ

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/07/140729-ebola-america-disease-epidemic-africa-medicine-science/

“Why Deadly Ebola Virus Is Likely to Hit the U.S. But Not Spread”


24 posted on 07/30/2014 8:58:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: TangledUpInBlue
"You can’t get it from an elevator button."

Although most of your facts are correct based on study of traditional Ebola filoviris, I think you are overly complacent on the transmissibility. Obviously, wet oral secretion on a doorknob or elevator button would be infectious for some limited amount of time. Some of the infections of suited medical personnel are difficult to explain. Either there were gross safety protocol errors or the transmissibility of this strain is greater than thought. In addition, mutations could change the ballgame at any time.

25 posted on 07/30/2014 9:18:00 AM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

“Doctors Without Borders (MSF) warned the crisis gripping Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone would only get worse and could not rule out it spreading to other countries.”

“Countries Without Borders”, like the United States, should be taking this very seriously. With the human tidal wave crossing our southern borders, and rapidly being dispersed under executive orders, we could be seeing an explosion of infectious diseases here, too.


26 posted on 07/30/2014 9:20:54 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: TangledUpInBlue; steve86; Justa; GOPJ

It also appears to be spread by mosquitos:

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/infectious-disease-topics/vhf

“Pathogenesis

The pathogenesis of hemorrhagic fever viruses is not completely understood; however, key points include the following (Peters 2002):

Hemorrhagic fever viruses enter the bloodstream through various mechanisms (eg, the bite of a mosquito or tick, inhalation, mucous membrane exposure, parenteral exposure), and all (except hantaviruses) cause disease during the period of viremia.
The infectious dose for hemorrhagic fever viruses appears to be low (1 to 10 organisms) (Franz 1997).”

Which would explain the huge uptick in infection rate after the beginning of rainy season in West Africa on the graph a bit down this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_West_Africa_Ebola_outbreak


27 posted on 07/30/2014 9:23:53 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: TangledUpInBlue; steve86; Justa; GOPJ; MarMema

It would also explain why the MD’s/health staff working in these clinics seem to be getting ill despite all the precautions being taken. Mosquitos bite the patients then bite the workers.


28 posted on 07/30/2014 9:32:46 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Kartographer
What if it is something as simple as being able to shelter in place for 30-60 days while an outbreak runs its course? Could you make it through such a quarantine with what you have in your home?

If you mean hide out from a Mad max type outbreak where it is each man for himself and you lock yourself in the house and man the guns for 60 days, until it finishes it's pass, then my preps would apply, but if you mean a quarantine like in my child hood, then you would not be condemned to starvation.

Smallpox outbreak, 1950-51
""As children, this venture to our grandparents was something we always looked forward too, lots of nice treats and always a comic and sweets when we left. This particular Sunday we arrived, only to find the door locked and there was a big black cross, painted on the door.

The house in quarantine
My Aunt Alice called out to us from the letterbox. The house was in quarantine due to an outbreak of smallpox. We had to stay away for at least a month, or when we were told it was safe to return. This was the first we new about it, and were told that Brighton was affectedly isolated from the rest of the country. I think that only foodstuff and restricted merchandise was allowed into Brighton, nothing was allowed out until the outbreak had been contained.""

29 posted on 07/30/2014 9:50:32 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Black Agnes

Good article.


30 posted on 07/30/2014 9:59:15 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Whole different world now then back then. Do you really what to depend on FEMA to bring you food? Yeah why not they have proven to be stellar in handling emergencies.

Also depends on where you live, some places will pull together some won’t and there will be panic. Some that pull together will depending on how bad will eventually crack under the pressure if the epidemic is serve enough.


31 posted on 07/30/2014 10:06:30 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: ansel12

I could be wrong they could run a Rupual, Kardashian, American Idol marathon and then no one would leave the house! ;-)


32 posted on 07/30/2014 10:09:28 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Yes, I do expect them to bring me food if they tape a quarantine sticker on my door and tell me not to leave the house for 30 days because I am infectious.


33 posted on 07/30/2014 10:39:25 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Do you believe they will do it in a speedy and expeditious manner? Like they did in Katrina, Sandy,........?


34 posted on 07/30/2014 10:51:30 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

More likely they’ll round up all the people in the affected area in some sort of stadium, arena or other facility to ‘facilitate’ their care.

So if one person is infectious...


35 posted on 07/30/2014 10:55:00 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Kartographer

Yes, are you an idiot?

Do you think that people will be starving in their homes if a quarantine sticker is placed on their door?

Don’t work so hard to sound like a B movie all the time.


36 posted on 07/30/2014 11:01:16 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

You want to depend on FEMA, well go right ahead, but I’m not. I am allowed that choice I would hope, but maybe not it would seem.

If you haven’t had enough real world examples of FEMA’s over reach and incompetence then there is nothing I can say, but I have seen enough to know that FEMA can’t manage a hang nail.

I will not put the lives and the needs of my family in their incapable hands.


37 posted on 07/30/2014 11:13:05 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Why would I need to depend on them, I am a survivalist.

But do I think that if the county health officer puts a quarantine sticker on a family’s door, and explains to them that they are infectious and to not leave the house for 30 days, while health people check up on them and bring food, that it means that in reality they are going to sit in the house and starve to death while life goes on outside their window? No I don’t.


38 posted on 07/30/2014 11:17:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Handful yes you are right, but what if movement is restricted in whole cities? What if it isn’t they are restricted enough, but you know that there are multiple cases. Are you going to conduct business as usual not knowing if the person you just bought a gallon of milk and a pack of gum is infected?

This won’t be a handful of outlaying houses it will be whole cities.


39 posted on 07/30/2014 11:33:25 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

LOL, the B movie scenario about a 40 year old disease that has killed probably a 1000 people over it’s history.

Do we have to go straight to Road Warrior Apocalypse, mightn’t it just turn out to be another disease that we can handle and learn to take in stride if need be?

Even the deadly decades of AIDS have never destroyed us and had people abandoned to starve because we won’t let them go get some take out.


40 posted on 07/30/2014 11:46:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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