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Can a Third Party be Formed Without Helping Democrats Win?
Barb Wire ^ | August 5, 2014 | Steve Baldwin

Posted on 08/05/2014 3:58:48 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten

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To: BfloGuy
Vote. Vote for the lesser evil.

And folks wonder why the country is going to hell in a handbasket.

101 posted on 08/05/2014 6:52:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: LaybackLenny

What’s your ETA for a third party majority?

I don’t consider the Bush’s and recent failed prez candidates “sustained reform”.


102 posted on 08/05/2014 6:55:46 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: COBOL2Java

You present nothing resembling “reasoned thinking”.

We fire the RINOs at the fastest rate possible.

Interim suicide is not a necessary ingredient.

Letting a Dem win the WH in 2016 IS the death of America.


103 posted on 08/05/2014 6:59:59 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
This question has a two word answer:

ROSS PEROT


104 posted on 08/05/2014 7:03:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (We're The First Generation Not Forced To Fight To Defend Our Freedom.And It Shows!)
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To: mylife

“I am only saying she has removed herself from the game.”

She was “borked” in 2008, in a brilliant media campaign by the left. The enemies of truth ensured that enough of the white middle class couldn’t connect with her (many darker people would have voted against her on race alone anyway), and now those same people are reaping what they’ve sown.

She didn’t remove herself from the game; she couldn’t bring the votes to the ticket that she needed to. Little fault of her own; the people that usually get to choose our leaders waged their campaign well. I’ve instructed my children that nothing they see on TV is an accident; everything sold there (particularly ideas) are there for a reason.


105 posted on 08/05/2014 7:15:15 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: G Larry
I don’t consider the Bush’s and recent failed prez candidates “sustained reform”.

Thank you. I always appreciate when someone makes my point for me.

The successors to the Whigs have only fielded two legitimate opposition candidates since Hoover...Goldwater and Reagan. And since 1988, the Rockefeller wing has put in place a machine Boss Tweed would blush at.

I've listened to the "just wait until next time" line through Papa Bush, Bob ("On The") Dole, Baby ("Compassionate Conservative") Bush, Juan McAmnesty, and Mitt ("The Inventor of Obamacare') Romney. I think it's safe to say we conservatives will be played like a well-tuned fiddle again 2 years from now, and then be told to "suck it up one more time" for another milquetoast candidate running on the Democrat-lite ticket.

The Who's "Won't Be Fooled Again" comes to mind.

P.S., I'm not the least bit interested in a third party, but rather a SECOND party.

106 posted on 08/05/2014 7:47:29 PM PDT by LaybackLenny (Sarah Palin - Last Man Standing (Ironic, ain't it?))
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To: G Larry

We fire the RINOs at the fastest rate possible.


Will they go quietly? We’ve got plenty here telling us we have to reelect Mitch McConnel or the Democrats will win.

So, what’s the answer?


107 posted on 08/05/2014 8:01:59 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: kearnyirish2; mylife

Little fault of her own; the people that usually get to choose our leaders waged their campaign well. I’ve instructed my children that nothing they see on TV is an accident; everything sold there (particularly ideas) are there for a reason.


Of course the party wasn’t exactly her friend.


108 posted on 08/05/2014 8:07:06 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

That’s true; having McCain atop the ticket probably doomed it as well (he wouldn’t fight, but played nice).

She has a future as a fundraiser and campaigner, but I don’t see her returning to the national stage.


109 posted on 08/05/2014 8:15:26 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Did you find a suitable replacement in the Primary?

Did you fight hard enough for that replacement?

Do you think there will be an America left to save if you try your stay home and teach them a lesson strategy?


110 posted on 08/05/2014 8:19:52 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: LaybackLenny

Ok, so we got the message you’re PO’d.

What’s your strategy to fix the problem?


111 posted on 08/05/2014 8:23:32 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
I'm in!

F the Whigs!

112 posted on 08/05/2014 8:24:37 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (GOP = The Whig Party)
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To: Eagle Forgotten; All
"If a bunch of people agree with each other, you can't stop them from working together."

As I mentioned previously, military issues aside, one of the few jobs that the Founding States gave to the feds is to deliver mail; no need for a political party system to deliver mail.

For most other "government" services, patriots need to work with their state lawmakers.

In fact, the Supreme Court has clarified that Congress is prohibited from laying taxes in the name of state power issues, essentially any issue that Congress cannot justify under its constituitonal Article I, Section 8-limited powers.

“Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.” —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.

So if citizens worked with their state lawmakers to put an end to the tsunami of constitutionally infedersible federal taxes now going to DC, then the individual states could implement the "government" services that the citizens of a given state want and ignore the feds for the most part.

113 posted on 08/05/2014 8:51:15 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Gen.Blather

The new Republicans were sick and tired of the slave states and their influence and the constant diluting of the census. The Whigs weren’t getting it done, they were too old and too intrenched (sound familiar?).

Abolition of slavery was taking hold because that is what our Declartion and Constitution stated.

Reconstruction after the war would have much better had Lincoln not be assassinated. The Dems kept figting the Civil War with Jim Crow, Dred Scott, KKK, segregation, etc.


114 posted on 08/05/2014 8:56:37 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conservatives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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To: Gen.Blather

yes but back then a party consisted of constituents. we have and i agree whole hardheartedly de-funded us from the pubs. i don’t give them any money. they are beholden to the only funders. big business/commerce union. how do you fix that.


115 posted on 08/05/2014 9:17:54 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Eagle Forgotten
This question needs to be asked in light of the recent outrageous antics of the Gope in the primary elections (i. e. Mississippi).

Can conservatives really hope to accomplish anything when the closet democrats (Gope) are in charge of the Republican party (and sabotage them (Conservatives) at every opportunity) ?

Whatever they do-all angles need to be considered carefully. If conservatives decide to leave the Republican party-they need to All leave at the same time, formally announcing the third party, what it stands for, exc..

116 posted on 08/05/2014 9:27:33 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.??)
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To: Pajamajan
If conservatives decide to leave the Republican party-they need to All leave at the same time....

What struck me about the linked article was the author's thinking along those lines. His idea, which I hadn't seen before, is to collect pledges of votes and money -- pledges that don't take effect until a certain predetermined level of support is reached. Then and only then does the new party begin. His point is to use the Internet to coordinate the "all leave at the same time" that you call for.
117 posted on 08/06/2014 12:45:38 AM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: G Larry
Letting a Dem win the WH in 2016 IS the death of America.

Again with the crystal ball. Instead of fear mongering, why not try reasoned discourse? I reject your simplistic scare tactics.

118 posted on 08/06/2014 2:59:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
A lot of people in both parties have been waiting for something different. Even Howard Stern turned against the Democrats.

Something different, yes, but do they want Conservatives? If not, what can we do to win people over?

119 posted on 08/06/2014 3:35:37 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
So what exactly just happened in Mississippi?

One candidate got more votes then the other?

120 posted on 08/06/2014 3:38:25 AM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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