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POLICE AND RIOTS

Posted on 08/12/2014 4:47:26 AM PDT by 7thson

I have read some about the riots goind on due to the shooting death of Michael Brown and it started me thinking of something. I do not want anyone reading this post to think I sympathize with the rioters. I do not. But I think we should start to seriously question eitehr the training of police or how they recruit.

I do not know how this esculated into a shooting. I have read and heard that police ordered a kid to walk on the sidewalk and not the street and it got nasty from there. However, not a week goes by that a story hits the news about some bad action by a police officer. Whether it is beating up a homeless woman, a mistaken home entry, shooting a dog (lots of those), whatever. If it was always in one city or local, than a person could say something is wrong with the police procedures or leadership of that area. But when it happens across the nation, that leads me to think that something is seriously wrong with either police training procedures or the type of people that become police officers.

What say you Freepers?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: michaelbrown; missouri; police; riots
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To: Usagi_yo
Here in Maryland the police roughed up and arrested citizens for filming their encounters. It was very scarey and way over the line, until the court stepped in and re-affirmed the public right to video/record the police in action. It is still not over because the police claim it "interferes" with their ability to enforce the law.

The police give no ground. Compromise is impossible. Reasonableness is out of the question. Thus, the police state marches on one inch at a time.

41 posted on 08/12/2014 5:44:37 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama stands for the corruption of America in all aspects.)
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To: Salgak

“Their own side. Thug-cops will try to become local warlords. . .”

And death squads.


42 posted on 08/12/2014 5:45:06 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 7thson

He was shot about eight times.


43 posted on 08/12/2014 5:45:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: yldstrk

They sent a SWAT team to observe a mourning ceremony!!!

What kind of impartial investigation can we expect from these people???

Meanwhile Obama, Holder and the other racists are salvating at the opportunity these goons and thugs in blue have given them.


44 posted on 08/12/2014 5:45:58 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: 7thson

Consider NYC. It’s police force, if it were a country, would make it the 20th largest army in the world. Other cities in the US have a very large police presence as well. To not expect several bad eggs in each of these departments is unrealistic. True, seeing any innocent person killed because of terrible judgement is wrong. Still, for the blacks in MO to use that as an excuse to do what they did is also wrong. If you ask them why they are doing this, their response is always the “I’m-a-victim” excuse. And why didn’t the police force in MO act to stop it? Because of bad judgement of one officer. From Rodney King to Katrina to the most recent incident, blacks use the situation to destroy, loot, and steal. By contrast, compare Katrina to the tsunami in Japan where there was not even one incident of looting in the entire country.

To be sure, Jesse and Al will be in MO to stir the “victim” pot, but they need to be asking themselves: “What can the black leadership do to prevent the post-incident destruction that seems to be a black trademark?” So far, crickets...because they refuse to admit they have a problem.


45 posted on 08/12/2014 5:46:15 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: DoodleDawg

There are witnesses.


46 posted on 08/12/2014 5:46:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: DaveA37
Suggest we wait for ALL THE FACTS to come out before we start condemning the police.

All the facts? LOL!

Like we have ever gotten ALL THE FACTS about anything.

I used to be an unquestioning police supporter, but there is just too much evidence these days that a lot of them are psychopaths. It is one of those professions that attract people without consciences.

47 posted on 08/12/2014 5:46:41 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: AppyPappy

Most likely to show that he has the power.

To make traffic stop to make people look at him to show disrespect for the law and authority.


48 posted on 08/12/2014 5:47:05 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: AppyPappy

“Why was a kid walking in the middle of the street? You can get killed like that.”

First he wasn’t a kid. 18 yr.old that knew exactly what he was doing. Second, this trick is played as a form of the knock out game. In my area they walk completely blocking both direction of travel. Once you come to them and blow your horn or say something to them, it’s game on. I know this behavior and I believe the cop.


49 posted on 08/12/2014 5:47:17 AM PDT by DeWalt (Times are more like they used to be than they are today.)
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To: 7thson
America is a far more violent and dangerous place for the cops to patrol than say, 50 years ago.

Just as the society at large has gone morally downhill, so too the Police forces as well.

At one time, the most paramilitary police units were the SWAT teams. Now, it seems, that SWAT of the 1970’s is mere child's play compared to the teams today. Then again, the criminal forces they face are potentially armed to the teeth as well so there's been an escalation of violence of sorts, on both sides.

The Police, scared to death of a routine traffic violations have to prepare themselves for an attack at any moment. Their badge is a target. Society seems more demented, unstable, unpredictable and, again, violent.

The Police are now in an overkill mode and they abuse their power many times in order to protect themselves from harm.

September 11th added an extra layer of fear within the system, witness the security overkill, padding down grannies about to board a domestic flight. The US has lost all proportion in it's search for security and relies too much on High-tech INTEL and not enough on Profiling, like the Israelis. They rely more on HUMINT than anything else.

I am not saying that the Police policies do not need reforming, they do but those that sign up for the Police Academy may be the same adults who grew up on massive destruction, Hollywood films where whole areas of America's cities are obliterated while sexy guys and gals hold a massive handgun in the air, ready to pounce, kicking in the door and killing tens of bad guys. It's cool man! This is what we've all been exposed to at a more gory and bloody rate than at any other time in history.
The question here is can we step back

50 posted on 08/12/2014 5:47:28 AM PDT by Netz
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To: maine yankee

Good point.

The BIG bucks are out TV in the bugs where they harass motorists and kids smoking pot and shoot family dogs.


51 posted on 08/12/2014 5:47:57 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: 7thson

A loss a leadership. No one in our Government is accountable for their action from the President on down to people running the IRS or the Justice Department or the VA and on and on.
Shit rolls down hill. No leadership above leads to no leadership below. The Police no longer enforce the laws— see illegal aliens, allowing occupied cities, etc. They enforce political agendas. Then you have to look at hiring in the past several decades. There used to be physical requirements, intelligence requirements, medical requirements etc. Then we went PC. A certain amount had to be women, a certain amount had to be black or Hispanic or this or that. Now surely women, blacks,, Hispanics etc. can be Police Officers. But that should NEVER be the qualifying factor and in many case it was and is. Many things have conspired and occurred to get us to this point.


52 posted on 08/12/2014 5:48:52 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American. Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: Usagi_yo
Nobody posts stories about the cops who didn’t shoot the dog or the black teen.

I made that mistake once. I posted a story about a local cop who was run over buy a couple of parolees who had robbed a bank and was informed that it was one less cop that would shoot someone's dog.

Its not just democrats who live by mob rule.
53 posted on 08/12/2014 5:49:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: rdcbn

THAT is THEIR story. LIke the handcuffed black guy in the back of a police cruiser who allegedly pulled out a gun and shot himself.

Sorry. I don’t trust these guys anymore without witnesses or videotapes.
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54 posted on 08/12/2014 5:51:47 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
There are witnesses.

But only two people who really know what went on; the cop and the victim. Witness stories will be all over the board, and most don't paint a pretty picture of the officer's actions. So maybe he was provoked and had a justifiable reason for shooting the kid. Maybe he made a bad decision and an innocent young man is dead. We will never know for sure.

55 posted on 08/12/2014 5:52:20 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: bboop

I live in a suburb and the police consistently stop kids for being kids. I even called the chief about it to complain


56 posted on 08/12/2014 5:54:08 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

WAKE UP!!!

It’s happening in white communities too. Don’t you get
GET it??


57 posted on 08/12/2014 5:54:11 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qLDFiQcjlY Impeach Obama in 2015 !!!)
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To: 7thson
Just because the dead guys buddies say it was an unjust shoot. I'd like to give them a lie detector 1st. FR has way too many blame to cops first - & trust me I now they aren't always our right.
58 posted on 08/12/2014 5:54:21 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: AppyPappy
Why was a kid walking in the middle of the street? You can get killed like that.

Common practice among his tribe. Because crackas aint gonna do nuthin bout it. Its their way of exhibiting power over white boys.
59 posted on 08/12/2014 5:55:58 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: The turd that won't flush.)
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To: econjack

it’s war, police against the people. And gradually, the people will win. This isn’t Tienanmen Square where we will accept tanks running over kids.


60 posted on 08/12/2014 5:56:09 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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