Posted on 08/15/2014 5:48:20 AM PDT by Java4Jay
As challenging as parenting is, black families in particular are assuming more burdens. As challenging as parenting is, black families in particular are assuming more burdens. "Basically you have to separate yourself in this day and time. It's sad but it's true. They profile you just by first appearances"
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“As a young man I had several Black families whose children I played with and would eat over at their places and vice versa. And then came the Race-riots in the 60’s. I was no longer welcome in their homes because I was white.”
I grew up in the deep south in the late 50’s - early 60’s.
In Alabama roadside BBQ tents were popular out in the country, and blacks and whites ( total strangers ) sat and ate next to each other every day. Chatting about fishing or just day to day life.
All that changed instantly when those stupid marches and protests began. Who the hell started it, and why?
The schools were segregated, but the education gap was far less than it is today. As I remember it, neither group was thrilled about integrating the schools. The forced bussing lit the fuse on a powder keg.
When Kennedy was shot I was in school in Florida, the cheers were deafening.
Pandemonium among the Yute crowd!
Chris Rock’s public service address on this very topic (warning authentic hip hop adjective-verbs used)
https://www.youtube.com/embed/uj0mtxXEGE8?autoplay=1
Black families are only having those talks with their sons now? I had the same talks with our white son since he entered preschool. Those talks included having respect for others and for all of those in authority—teachers and police included. Working hard in school and being the best he could be in any situation. Why should it be any different for “blacks”?
Of course the welfare state, drugs, the sixties all changed that. You read an obituary of a black person under the age of 60 and you need a damned score card for all the different last names. I don't know how the hell they keep it all straight.
That is not my fault. They can keep being victimized by the Democrats and keep sucking at the teat of the rat party or they can join us. They need to follow Allen West, Ben Carson, Herman Cain instead of Tupac, or whatever his name was.
There is truth in what you say. As a chaplain in the military for an entire career, I saw many successful black families also on a career track. And I saw their children being equally responsible in school and in the base community as with any other children of any race. My personal opinion about child behavior is that each one of us knew that any stepping out of line by our kids would get to our commanders, our commanders would call us in and demand accountability, and we would be required to go figure it out or get slammed. It was that way across the board, so chronically unruly kids in the community environment weren't tolerated, parents had to get involved, and those kids with that heavy-hand actually did pretty well.
My point in all this is that those black fathers had knowledge of something that was foreign to the rest of us. They would say, and I paraphrase, "We have to teach our sons 'how to be black' in this world." By that they meant that they had to get their kids in touch with what it meant to be a black outside of a military compound.
It was entirely a protective measure on their part. The kid had to know how to be black when among civilian blacks, or he could get hurt. He had to know how to be black among authorities or he could get hurt. He had to come to accept being suspected more quickly or he could get hurt. And he had to learn that he would be stopped more, questioned more, and disbelieved more. He had to know that to avoid being hurt.
This young man who was shot could have used a good dose of those lessons that career military black soldiers taught their male children. If he had been, he would never have let this progress the way it had.
So, missing not just a father, but missing a wise, involved, and functional father, bears partial responsibility for costing this young man his life.
As always, sometimes no matter how much you teach your kids to be smart, they become dumb. And some become stupid. And some become criminal.
Re: Derbyshire- That was my first thoughts as well. Odd that no one on FR seems to get it as noted by the lack of comments on your post.
I’m not sure it’s in Ferguson, either, since I don’t think we have the full picture yet. However, blacks have taken the same loot-destroy-steal action that seems to be endemic for them, be it a police action (e.g., here or Rodney King) or natural (Karina). Personally, it looks more like an opportunity to steal stuff than a protest over what is the real issue. The homeless man who was killed by a black police man in NM didn’t see riots. Wonder why?
Yet he named his child Crishawn.
“African-American males are the most suspended, most punished of any group. Period.””
Funny thing. Segregationists 60 years ago said that was exactly why they did not want blacks in their schools.
Take a look at the comments section at CNN. A lot of conservatives are telling libs things they don’t like hearing. Expect the comments section to be deleted shortly.
Don’t we all? Haha.
I would recommend everyone get and watch all 5 seasons of the HBO series The Wire. A series of views of America more or less seen through the eyes of the police.
The Wire depicts a very wide cross section of Black urban subcultures. It is not critically acclaimed because it is accurate in the portrayals of criminals beginning at say 10 or 11 to participate in drug sales to middle age. Most of the old guys are leaders having lived through the critical ages where they are liable to get shot. Most of those that didn’t get shot are seen in prison.
One season examines the docks and the stevedore union struggling to live in an era where there old skills are just not required. The union is integrated and that makes it prey for the corrupt black politicians. The union gets snagged in the criminal importation of the drugs by Russian criminals to be sold to the black innercity kingpins. A fabulous tale very well told.
The educated middle and upper class blacks are so deeply involved in the process of staying out of the criminal element they lose track of what they are trying to accomplish. Except that is, a corrupt state senator that works both sides of the street enriching himself by pitting one of the subcultures against another.
That is not to say the middle class subculture is bad. It is not, far from it. If you pay attention you see that they have escaped from the urban criminal based subculture into the county, the suburbs. They are portrayed as good, solid, first class Democrats.
The Wire does not shun those that are good. It depicts them existing above and beyond a world inherently criminal and totally unmanageable. It is the American city exposed.
In Furgeson we heard from the get go...... this is not us, we are not like this. They are experiencing ghetto creep. They have become us.
“It’s sad but it’s true. They profile you just by first appearances”......... committing assaults during robberies...
so son... take dad’s advice.... wear a mask and get the tape...
ok dad.... thanks
And why are young black males more prone to committing criminal acts and getting punished and suspended from school? The reason is the failure of intact black families to form. Fathers are not present and why? Blacks jumped onto the welfare bandwagon earlier and to a much larger degree than other races. Men, Fathers were pushed out and replaced with Father State. This has been a catastrophe, part of which is playing out in Ferguson MO over the passed few days. Security video of "unarmed teenager Big Mike Brown (now deceased)" pushing someone in a store against the refrigerators, while stealing cigars. Police were responding to this robbery. So much for the sob stories about the "unarmed teenager" (first name) of Brown, who was a gentile, good boy with no enemies. Big Mike was a thug.
To blacks cops are cops and black cops are sellouts.
Fathers in prison can’t tell their sons much of anything
The blacks have been taught unless they have as much as some whites they shouldnt be happy. It’s called envy, jealousy and leads to hate.
It's also not helping that the black community seems to believe that Trayvon was a saint, despite the evidence that he was once apprehended in school with a backpack containing stolen jewelry and a screwdriver.
I hear no protestations that the claim about the stolen jewelry is false. It is simply ignored as if it is irrelevant.
Until the black community can cure themselves of this blindness they will continue to make fools of themselves and set back any hope of improving the lives of their children.
I just heard on the radio that there is surveillance video of him stealing a box of cigars. While no excuse for shooting him, neither is he the paragon of virtual the MSM wants us to believe.
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