Handguns are anemic weapons as far as instant stops, unless CNS hit. Of course, people have been killed instantly by drive by with a .22 and survived self-inflicted head shot wound with .44 mag. There have been reports in war of a person taking .50 cal round to shoulder and still running forward, or by police of a person getting struck by slug and still advancing. Could be there already dead but motor functions still working, haven’t bled out enough. Louis L’amour did studies on the gun fights of the old West, noting some taking 11 shots and still going. Like animals, some just have a will to live.
The +p 125 jhp .357 magnum load has the best record of performance for one shot stops by police..of course it was the most common load for years so there is more data.
In my opinion, part of the de-militarization of police is return back to 6-7 or even 8 shot revolvers in .357, .45 LC, shotguns and bolt/lever long guns. Leave semi auto stuff with SWAT, for their intended purpose, hostage role, etc. Not no knock raids, etc either.
This will also bring the shoot and spray under control by law enforcement, like the incident in Miami this past year where officers were shot by their own force with all the ammo unloaded on 2 copkillers in car, or the incident in Boston bombing chasing after 2 Chechyans firing at night, rounds going into apt building, or NYC where police open fire on busy street hitting only civilians...examples go on and on..
Agreed....
Locally here, in Placer County Ca., an Ice agent tried to stop a Mexican American with a dubious record. While getting out of the car the Ice agent’s pistol went off wounding the agent (he shot himself).....Thinking his life was in danger the man he was after hid in a neighbor’s house....the local police responding to an “officer down call,” riddled the house with fire from their M-16s.......not only uncalled for, but also very illustrative demonstration of poor training with a lack of fire control. It was reported in the media that the unarmed subject of their attention may have armed himself with an AK-47 (sic what else!) he found in the house....lolololol
Wild Bill Hickok is famous for using a percussion cap 1849 Navy Colt’s revolver firing a .36 caliber lead ball in the era of the cartridge pistols like the Peacemaker.......bullet placement is everything!
police are notoriously poor shots.... Unlike a soldier, they don’t go to work expecting to use their firearms......