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Autopsy: Michael Brown Was Shot 6 Times
Newser ^ | Aug 18, 2014 | Rob Quinn

Posted on 08/18/2014 3:41:30 AM PDT by Enterprise

The results of a private autopsy on Michael Brown may escalate tensions in Ferguson, Missouri even further: The examiner says the unarmed teenager was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, and all the bullets came from the front, reports the New York Times. Pathologist Michael Baden, New York City's former chief medical examiner, says all the bullets were fired from at least one or two feet away, and one bullet—apparently the last one fired—hit the top of the 18-year-old's head.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: baden; banglist; brownautopsy; deadlyforce; defensive; doubletap; ferguson; firearms; frontal; guncontrol; guns; handgun; proximity; riots; secondamendment; shooting; training
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To: Vince Ferrer

I think that would be correct. Other posters have convinced me to rethink my initial speculation.


21 posted on 08/18/2014 4:08:34 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: jonose

I doubt that he was on heroin, it tends to make people a little more mellow. I would guess a central nervous stimulant would contribute to Brown’s aggressiveness given that he was facing an armed officer.


22 posted on 08/18/2014 4:10:28 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

>> Working in reverse, the phrasing no more than 1 to 2 feet away limits the distance to a maximum of 2 feet.

Flawed logic. (Some call it “bullshit”.)


23 posted on 08/18/2014 4:10:38 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Enterprise; Admin Moderator

>> If my parenthetical wording is misleading, the post should be taken down.

There’s nothing wrong with the post and no need to remove the whole thing. Just fix the headline by removing the parenthetical.


24 posted on 08/18/2014 4:12:29 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick

All I was pointing out was if something is no more than two feet away, then it cannot be three feet because it can’t be more than two feet away.


25 posted on 08/18/2014 4:14:31 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Nervous Tick

I agree that fixing the parenthetical would also work.


26 posted on 08/18/2014 4:15:04 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: BilLies

I have just read the AP article in my local Obama Orifice and Outlet, the Albany (NY) Times Union. ALL of the points NOT MENTIONED in the ABC Radio News were ALSO NOT MENTIONED in the AP article EVEN though they all were reported in the NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE.
THEY WANT A RACE WAR!!!


27 posted on 08/18/2014 4:15:11 AM PDT by BilLies ( it isn't the color of the skin, but culture that is embraced that degrades.)
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To: jonose
IMHO, Regardless of race, when that big man started coming at me, I would have felt threatened enough to open fire.

Think of it this way: 35 ft is a little over ten yards. An athletic kid -- even the size of Brown -- could cover that distance in about 2 seconds. That's not a lot of time for a LEO to retreat to safety.

28 posted on 08/18/2014 4:15:13 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Enterprise
I would guess a central nervous stimulant would contribute to Brown’s aggressiveness given that he was facing an armed officer.

I think adrenaline might qualify.

29 posted on 08/18/2014 4:15:43 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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In my long ago training as a boarding officer, the rule was if you are in the situation where you must shoot a perp, you keep pulling the trigger until your runs out of ammo or the target is clearly neutralized. Then quickly reload.


30 posted on 08/18/2014 4:16:17 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: tacticalogic

It does!


31 posted on 08/18/2014 4:17:00 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise

It says AT LEAST one or two feet away. That is vague, but just means that the shots were not closer than that. That they were in the front means that the deceased was not fleeing.
The heading for this item as posted in FR is misleading.


32 posted on 08/18/2014 4:18:16 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: Enterprise

i can’t find anything in the NYT article about “one to two feet” away.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html?_r=1


33 posted on 08/18/2014 4:18:35 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Enterprise
one or two feet away...

So is this true? If so, then he was not shot with his hands up in the air from 35 feet away?

34 posted on 08/18/2014 4:23:08 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Labyrinthos

I agree with your observation that Brown could have covered 35 feet very quickly. To me, the most logical explanation would be that Wilson started firing when Brown was still at distance, with the last shot being fired was the one to the top of the head as Brown was falling forward.


35 posted on 08/18/2014 4:23:41 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Spktyr

Operative words there are ‘at least’

yep, but Baden is out to stir up the low info type whom will
deduct that Brown was executed.


36 posted on 08/18/2014 4:25:21 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: Enterprise

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37 posted on 08/18/2014 4:25:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KC_Conspirator

The information was that the distance was at least 1 to 2 feet, meaning as other posters have pointed out, that the distance may be greater than two feet. That being said, the location of the wounds makes it unlikely that he had his “hands up” while running towards the officer. People don’t run like that.


38 posted on 08/18/2014 4:26:13 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: KC_Conspirator

No, because there is no way Baden could determine that without access to the clothing.

Baden can only say that the shots were not very close.

Baden only said the shots were not from close range.

From the NYT article:

“The bullets did not appear to have been shot from very close range because no gunpowder was present on his body. However, that determination could change if it turns out that there is gunshot residue on Mr. Brown’s clothing, to which Dr. Baden did not have access.”

A very close shot would leave stippling and soot even through clothes.

Trayvon Martin had a soot ring and heavy stippling even through a hoodie and a t-shirt.

Note that Johnson says that Brown was shot at close range at the vehicle and began to bleed there.


39 posted on 08/18/2014 4:28:26 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Enterprise
Why would the phrasing "at 1east" 1 to 2 feet away be used?

probably so the claim can't be made that the officer walked over to the kneeling deceased and executed him, as some have alleged to have occurred.

40 posted on 08/18/2014 4:29:45 AM PDT by blueplum
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