Posted on 08/26/2014 9:17:25 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
That is quite an interesting site you got there. I learned a lot about Illuminati and on why they are chemtrailing us. Is Putin fighting against the Illuminati in Ukraine to save us from chemtrailing? Is that why he shot down the airliner?
You tell me the difference. I know the definition - modern and traditional.
They are acts of war. A ‘war on terrorism’ is like declaring a ‘war on aviation’ in 1941 when the Japanese used planes to bomb Pearl Harbor.
Like they say in Real Estate: It’s all about location. location, location. In Ukraine I think it’s all about oil, oil, oil !!!
Maybe it is, but should Ukraine lay down, or fight?
I don’t know except I feel it’s none of our business to interfere in their affairs. I think speeches like “fundamentally change U.S.,” etc. plus the Cairo speech have set the world on fire. Before this sleaze showed up, the Middle East was relative calm!!!
the Ukraine is not the middle east
The Nato general secretary, Rasmussen,
is from Denmark like myself but he is totally wrong on this issue. NATO is not supposed to be an attack organization like they were in Yugoslavia and Libya. None of them member of NATO. NATO is ONLY an organization created during the cold war, that IF any of the original NATO members were attacked by USSR, NATO would pool together and defend that country, ONLY if attacked!!!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/26/nato-east-european-bases-counter-russian-threat
ok but i wasnt talking about nato. just the ukraine. i believe if they have oil, (and i dont know that if they do or not) Russia should buy it, not invade the country and take it.
Maybe this sheds light on your question on Ukraine???
“Russia’s partners...should understand it’s best not to mess with us,” said Putin, dressed casually in a grey sweater and light blue jeans.
“Thank God, I think no one is thinking of unleashing a large-scale conflict with Russia. I want to remind you that Russia is one of the leading nuclear powers.”
Putin spoke easily with the students, many of whom looked to be asking scripted questions about demography and history. Other times he accepted gifts or, smilingly, played down their praise.
When a student said that she had not heard a single negative comment about Putin’s presidency from camp speakers, he responded with a grin that “objectivity” was important.
His tone darkened when speaking on Ukraine, blaming the United States and the European Union for the “unconstitutional” removal of Kiev’s former Moscow-backed president Viktor Yanukovich and replacement with a pro-European government.
He said eastern Ukraine did not agree with Yanukovich’s removal and was now subjected to “crude military force” from government planes, tanks and artillery.
“If those are contemporary European values, then I’m simply disappointed in the highest degree,” he said, comparing Ukraine’s military operations in the east of the country with the Nazi siege of Leningrad in World War Two.
“Small villages and large cities surrounded by the Ukrainian army which is directly hitting residential areas with the aim of destroying the infrastructure... It sadly reminds me of the events of the Second World War, when German fascist... occupiers surrounded our cities.” (Reporting by Alexei Anishchuk, Writing by Thomas Grove; editing by Ralph Boulton)”
I’m NOT Pro-Russia, but I have NO reason to trust our “government”(???) !!!
Putin and Russia will now be fighting for quite a while. The West will arm Ukraine and they will fight. They woke up NATO. Already troops are moving to defensive positions. Countries that we’re considering NATO will be taking a closer look. Putin recently broke a missile treaty in place since 83. It didn’t go UN noticed. Putins talk of nuclear war just adds more money to the defense budget.
Scripted questions from children to a smiling thug may look good to Russians, but it doesn’t put a happy face on what he did. The West did not invade, send troops or military hardware prior to this. The people voted to be rid of Viktor because they wanted what the West has. Freedom from oppression, a chance for a better life for their children. The Communist couldn’t let that happen, it might catch on.
I would think a country like Poland and another victim of Russian aggression Georgia might send some token help at least. Just to free up some Ukraine resources to go to the fight.
I do not know what it would take to get help to Ukraine. It is crazy
You cannot trust Putin on any issue. He is invading a sovereign country and cannot even make up a good reason to do so, while pretending not to have invaded.
“should Ukraine lay down, or fight?”
If a SWAT team arrives at your door at oh-dark-thirty and proceeds thru it, do you lay down, or fight?
Ukraine should go read Sun Tzu in earnest.
Where do you have Communism, HERE or in Russia???
Who do YOU believe (trust), our Islamist government, or are you drinking the cool-aid???
WHO do you believe shot down MH17???
They have totally screwed the NATO organization. Ukraine is NOT member of NATO!!!
NATO should provide assistance but nobody is saying we should send troops.
The question is WHO do believe in this rotten world of greed???
What is NATO’s main objectives and how was it created???
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