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Judges chide state lawyers over gay marriage bans
AP via Yahoo News ^ | August 26, 2014 | Michael Tarm

Posted on 08/27/2014 4:23:45 AM PDT by John W

CHICAGO (AP) — Federal appeals judges bristled on Tuesday at arguments defending gay marriage bans in Indiana and Wisconsin, with one Republican appointee comparing them to now-defunct laws that once outlawed weddings between blacks and whites.

Richard Posner, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan in 1981, hit the backers of the ban the hardest. He balked when Wisconsin Assistant Attorney General Timothy Samuelson repeatedly pointed to "tradition" as the underlying justification for barring gay marriage.

"It was tradition to not allow blacks and whites to marry — a tradition that got swept away," the 75-year-old judge said. Prohibition of same-sex marriage, Posner said, derives from "a tradition of hate ... and savage discrimination" of homosexuals.

Attorneys general in both states asked the appellate court to permanently restore the bans, which were ruled unconstitutional in June. Its ruling could affect hundreds of couples who married after lower courts tossed the bans and before those rulings were stayed pending the Chicago appeal.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda
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1 posted on 08/27/2014 4:23:45 AM PDT by John W
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To: John W

Our country has gone stark raving mad.


2 posted on 08/27/2014 4:27:26 AM PDT by madprof98
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There’s no biological reason why Blacks and Whites can’t marry.

There is a biological reason why Gays can’t marry. They are the same sex. Marriage is between different sexes.


3 posted on 08/27/2014 4:28:04 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: John W

Gay marriage promotes disease. Do any lawyers come at it from that perspective? Anal sex is a health risk. Gay marriage should be outlawed on that alone.


4 posted on 08/27/2014 4:30:47 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: John W

Traditionally our federal judges have enjoyed life tenure.

So if tradition is no longer honored by our judges there should be an easy way to fire these morons.


5 posted on 08/27/2014 4:31:55 AM PDT by proudpapa (Scott Walker - 2016)
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To: John W
Men ≠ Women

Man + Woman ≠ Man + Man
Man + Woman ≠ Woman + Woman

6 posted on 08/27/2014 4:33:46 AM PDT by RangerM
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Posner has gone off the deep end. Doesn’t he realize that any man can marry any woman? How is different from the Jim Crow democrat days? Any man could not marry any woman.

Where is the mystery in that difference? Marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Any man and any woman (certain exceptions apply).


7 posted on 08/27/2014 4:34:29 AM PDT by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: RangerM
∴ Man + Man ≠ Woman + Woman ≠ Man + Woman
8 posted on 08/27/2014 4:35:16 AM PDT by RangerM
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To: missnry
Gay marriage promotes disease. Do any lawyers come at it from that perspective? Anal sex is a health risk. Gay marriage should be outlawed on that alone.

Hate to burst your bubble, but many heterosexuals also engage in anal sex.

9 posted on 08/27/2014 4:38:14 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: John W

Same sex marriage: Undoing four million years of evolution with the stroke of a pen.


10 posted on 08/27/2014 4:39:41 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Therein lies the problem. If “any” man can marry “any” other man—using the logic that consent is all that’s required—then what is the legal reason that two siblings of the same sex cannot? How about Father/Son?

Sick, but not if your motivation is to subvert certain tax law. A spouse isn’t subject to inheritance taxes.

The same thing can happen if two men want to marry for similar spousal benefits.


11 posted on 08/27/2014 4:41:48 AM PDT by RangerM
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Our country has gone stark raving mad.

The United States, as a nation, has rejected the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob to embrace the prince of this world. While there a sizable minority of Christians, and much smaller minority of observant Jews, who still seek to keep the commandments, those of us who read and believe the scriptures see where this is going.

12 posted on 08/27/2014 4:42:56 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: John W

5 years from now, when two married lesbian women want to enter into a triple marriage with their French poodle, this same judge will say, ‘Why not? Time was when two gays couldn’t marry, either.’


13 posted on 08/27/2014 4:43:26 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: madprof98
Our country has gone stark raving mad.

The United States, as a nation, has rejected the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to embrace the prince of this world. While there a sizable minority of Christians, and much smaller minority of observant Jews, who still seek to keep the commandments, those of us who read and believe the scriptures see where this is going.

14 posted on 08/27/2014 4:43:29 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: agere_contra
There’s no biological reason why Blacks and Whites can’t marry.

True, but many people who opposed interracial marriage did so on biological grounds, such as mixing the gene pools would create a new race that is weaker and more susceptible to disease; the children would be neither white nor black and that would cause confusion, depression, anxiety, and psychological distress.

15 posted on 08/27/2014 4:43:51 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: John W
Marriage is soooooo 1960s, anyway, thanks to LBJ's "Great Society" programs.


16 posted on 08/27/2014 4:45:03 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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I have been married 41 years to college sweetheart! We are mostly caucasian. We still hope this works out! LOL


17 posted on 08/27/2014 4:47:32 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming, the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.)
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To: missnry

Heteros do that too, anal sodomy. I am NOT condoning it, but they do it. Seems like a very painful alternative to procreation!


18 posted on 08/27/2014 4:48:44 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming, the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.)
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To: RangerM

If marriage is defined as one man and one woman, this means No More Divorce! We aren’t saying one man at a time to one woman at a time. Divorce is just as bad as gay marriage. Both are harmful to the children. Adult children of divorce have so many problems. They have told me that.


19 posted on 08/27/2014 4:50:19 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming, the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.)
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To: reg45

There is no such thing as evolution. Read some HUGH ROSS books.


20 posted on 08/27/2014 4:51:17 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming, the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.)
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