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What kind of men are we?
American Thinker ^ | 8/31/2014

Posted on 08/31/2014 1:08:38 PM PDT by Altura Ct.

One of the strangest periods of Roman history was the period right before the republic collapsed and became an empire. The Romans weren't known for losing, but during this period, they lost nearly everything they put their hands to. Catiline nearly overthrew the republic by rallying profligates, whoremongers, and drunken hipsters under the flag of rapacity. A Numidian king named Jugurtha practically walked into the Senate, bribed a bunch of senators, and caused them to overlook his hostile foreign policy – which cost a friendly kingdom its ruin. Pirates practically owned the seas, so that all sea trade had practically stopped. Nothing was fought for; everything was bought. Money, and not honor, was the currency; safety was lost for safety's sake. Jugurtha was told by the Romans themselves that everything was for sale in Rome, and he proved them right.

Rome itself was plunder until Pompey arrived and, in a moment of manliness and decision, cleared the seas of pirates. The republic was lost to Catiline until Cicero shouted like an angry patriot and placed his own life in danger to save it. Rome was bought until Metellus and Marius arrived, denying the bribes of Jugurtha, and actually decided to stand by their friends.

The strange thing about all of this was that Rome had always had the means to fight; she'd always had the men and the arms, and certainly always had the connections to do it. The fact of the matter was that until a few angry men stood in the senate and began to question the effeminacy and dishonor of the Roman people, nobody had been content to do anything about it. Simply put, they lacked the will. A general named Scipio said only years earlier that their triumph over Carthage would make them fat and lazy...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
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1 posted on 08/31/2014 1:08:38 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: Altura Ct.

Sounds an awful lot like DC to me.


2 posted on 08/31/2014 1:10:43 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Altura Ct.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious.
But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist.
A murderer is less to be feared."

-- Marcus Tullius Cicero


"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream.
It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same,
or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children
and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.
"
President Ronald Reagan

3 posted on 08/31/2014 1:13:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: Altura Ct.

And then along came Caesar.


4 posted on 08/31/2014 1:16:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a stBut is it grammatically catement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Altura Ct.

“What kind of men are we?”

We are DEVO.


5 posted on 08/31/2014 1:18:34 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Diogenesis

No wonder all liberals, democrats, Rinos and turncoats hated Ronaldus Maximus..

Oh! and the republican elite..


6 posted on 08/31/2014 1:19:16 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Altura Ct.

Why do you hate Jeremy Egerer?


7 posted on 08/31/2014 1:20:33 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Altura Ct.

Excellent.


8 posted on 08/31/2014 1:23:15 PM PDT by marron
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To: Farmer Dean

Ya needed a strong stomach back then.. And a good ventilator mask.

I can only imagine the stench, a kingdom come apart

At its seams and sinews..

Ripped to shred by indifferent mobs

And vanquishing hordes of barbarians wearing black leather.

The good old days..

Some times nations fall to outside forces,,

Sometimes from by rotting from within..

In the end, we are all victims of history

As well as its students.

Maybe things will click better next time around. ;-)


9 posted on 08/31/2014 1:28:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Altura Ct.
The most pampered generations are the most likely to throw a good nation away.

Sadly, even our churches contribute to this pampering.

Well, the church I attend anyway.

We have young, able-bodied men living on our campus who are not required to do anything to earn their keep and they aren't pushed to go look for work or anything that might actually lead to the improvement of their situation.

Whenever I bring it up to anyone in leadership, I'm told that we're supposed to be our brothers' keeper and other such pap.

I bring up the Bible also says that if a man doesn't work he shouldn't eat or a man who doesn't provide for his family is a disgrace, but it falls on deaf ears.

Wow. Where did this come from? Thanks for letting me rant.

10 posted on 08/31/2014 1:30:27 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Altura Ct.
If our sons are reckless, we may blame that on youth, but if they are prideless, we must blame their fathers for not telling them exciting stories . . . it [could be argued] in comparison with the enlightenment, fortitude, and bravery of our English and American ancestors, that we aren't really men at all.

Much of what he said about the Roman Empire sure sounded familiar. But I think the problem is to a large extent orchestrated; to wit, my friend Abe will explain.

You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

The question today is either the opponents of statism will arrest the further spread of it and place it on course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become permanent.

Have you no tendency to the latter condition?


11 posted on 08/31/2014 1:31:22 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Re: “Romans rioted partially because their citizens were unjustly overrun with usury – as ours are currently by national and private bankers...”

That’s a fairly bizarre statement.

Since 2008, Americans have paid interest rates that are at historical lows.

In fact, about 15 of the last 20 years have had abnormally low interest rates.

And credit - of all types - is available to more Americans than ever before.


12 posted on 08/31/2014 1:37:18 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Altura Ct.

Metro - Sexual Men


13 posted on 08/31/2014 1:46:13 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Texas Eagle

You have one of the best taglines I’ve read....


14 posted on 08/31/2014 1:48:21 PM PDT by JW1949
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To: Diogenesis

Ping.


15 posted on 08/31/2014 1:51:19 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Metro - Sexual Whimps


16 posted on 08/31/2014 1:53:03 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: zeestephen
"Since 2008, Americans have paid interest rates that are at historical lows."

They are the Moochers getting money for next to nothing. Meanwhile, the Savers are getting nothing, and many are being forced into the arms of Government Welfare while the Bankers get very rich living on free money. Who says the current Fascist Regime is failing in its policies?

17 posted on 08/31/2014 2:14:38 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: SandRat

“Metro - Sexual Whimps”

Don’t like Devo, eh? Great fun band! Tweaked everyone’s noses. Great sense of humor exposed in music.


18 posted on 08/31/2014 2:23:30 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Farmer Dean

Yea. Washington, BC.


19 posted on 08/31/2014 2:30:05 PM PDT by GreensKeeperWillie
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To: Altura Ct.

and feeling that chance and not effort, happenstance and not heritage is the source of their comfort, they begin to imagine the current reality as their natural state,

Read more: http://americanthinker.com/2014/08/what_kind_of_men_are_we.html#ixzz3C0XyxlXe
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There it is in a nutshell.


20 posted on 08/31/2014 2:34:13 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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