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Schizophrenic man armed only with pellet gun 'had no face after being shot 80 times' by Texas cops
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 3, 2014 | MailOnline Reporter

Posted on 09/03/2014 10:11:12 PM PDT by kiryandil

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To: Moonman62; LevinFan; driftdiver
Of course. If the gun is a replica the officers have to assume it's real. But that's not going to stop the anti-cop chorus on FR from using this story to stir up emotions against the police.

Yeah, you're right. It's not like the security guard at the truck stop told several of the police officers that it was a pellet gun before the shooting. Oh, wait...

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Eyewitness Account Conflicts with Official Statement by Laredo Police Department l

Victor Treviño is the CFO of the 5301 West Laredo Gateway Truck Stop. He shares his account and personal questions on the shooting of Jose Walter Garza by the Laredo police department.

Treviño apparently has some law experience, also.

FWIW, I didn't know about this video when I posted the original article. I just thought the 80 rounds was kind of excessive, almost like you gave a pack of coon dogs semi-autos after they treed the coon.

61 posted on 09/04/2014 2:31:41 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: GeronL

Check post #61


62 posted on 09/04/2014 2:32:33 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

lol, that last line..


63 posted on 09/04/2014 2:34:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Moonman62; LevinFan; driftdiver; 2ndDivisionVet; GeronL
The video interview with Victor Treviño is damning.

Over 20 squad cars? AR-15s? Opening up on the guy while there were patrons in the truck stop, without notifying the other peasants?

The gate guard, who we know doesn't have the intense professional training of the police officers, wandered up to the "perp" and asked to look at the BB gun, then told him to put it away.

Later, the gate guard told several of the officers before the shooting that it was a BB gun.

Headphones, again.

Fistbumps? Taking pictures of the dead guy with a cellphone?

64 posted on 09/04/2014 2:44:33 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

bump


65 posted on 09/04/2014 2:46:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: kiryandil
Trevino wasn't there. He's giving a second hand account. It's hearsay. But according to him at 2:10 in the video, the guard did not verify that it was a BB gun.

Also, what were the police told by dispatch, and who called the police and what did that person say?

But none of this is going to stop you from stirring up animosity toward the police, is it? Why bother waiting for the facts to come out, when you can do the FR equivalent of looting and destruction?

66 posted on 09/04/2014 2:54:11 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62; LevinFan; driftdiver; 2ndDivisionVet; GeronL
But according to him at 2:10 in the video, the guard did not verify that it was a BB gun.

If by "not verify" you mean that the gate guard asked to look at it, handled it, and then told the guy to put it away, then I guess you're right.

Or not.

67 posted on 09/04/2014 3:01:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: Moonman62; LevinFan; driftdiver; 2ndDivisionVet; GeronL
But none of this is going to stop you from stirring up animosity toward the police, is it?

No, I think the fist-bumps, the cellphone picture of the dead guy, the hosing down of the area without notifying the peasantry, & the ignoring of the gate guard is going to stir up animosity toward the police in this instance.

Why bother waiting for the facts to come out

You're right - why should I believe my lying eyes when I watch the video?

68 posted on 09/04/2014 3:09:21 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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makes it hard to say Joe 6-Pack used excessive force in a shooting anymore when cops, who are in theory professionals, literally unload on people every friggin day...
69 posted on 09/04/2014 3:11:30 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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Check post #61.

It's an interview with the CFO of the truck stop.

It's damning.

70 posted on 09/04/2014 3:16:40 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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Where did Trevino say the guard handled the gun? How many police officers did the guard tell? Did he say he was sure it was a BB gun, or he wasn’t sure? Why didn’t the guard call 911 and tell them it was a BB gun?

Trevino is also a lawyer. Wouldn’t that making him biased, spreading hearsay that could deflect liability from his company?

What was the purpose of the fist bump? How do you know?

What was the purpose of the picture? I see officers toward the end of the security video shining lights on the suspect as one is writing a report. Could the picture have helped with a preliminary report, or explaining the scene to a superior?

I guess you don’t know anything about the 911 call and why so many officers were dispatched.


71 posted on 09/04/2014 3:40:17 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: kiryandil
precedent has been set, what's good for the goose is good for the gander...
72 posted on 09/04/2014 3:44:45 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: DannyTN

All better then for many here

Kill mentally I’ll and pothead!

And cool police training...

A triple for JBLs


73 posted on 09/04/2014 3:49:04 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ferguson MO...but i thought blacks went north to escape the racism of mean ol southerners)
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Where did Trevino say the guard handled the gun?

Treviño: "The gate guard saw him [the perforated guy] with what appeared to be a gun. He [the gate guard] saw it in a bag. He [the gate guard] said, "Hey, is that a real gun?" And the individual [the perforated guy] answered, "Hey, no, it's not. It's a BB gun - I bought it." He [the gate guard] said, "Let me see it. OK, put it away. You can't have that out. And if you gonna have it out, you have to leave. And you can't have that bottle of wine here, either." The individual [the perforated guy] complied, and he just fell asleep."

How many police officers did the guard tell?

You have to inform ALL the coon dogs with semi-autos, or it doesn't count? Interesting...

74 posted on 09/04/2014 3:57:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: wardaddy

Check post #61. There’s new info.


75 posted on 09/04/2014 3:58:15 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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It is damning, but I’ve got a Benjamin, and Crosman that will kill (at least one person) as fast as a Remington 700....any calibre.


76 posted on 09/04/2014 4:00:07 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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It is damning, but I’ve got a Benjamin, and Crosman that will kill (at least one person) as fast as a Remington 700....any calibre.

OK, we'll go.

You have to drink a bottle of wine, go to sleep, and be wearing headphones when I wake you up.

We'll see what your howitzer can do then. LOL! :)

77 posted on 09/04/2014 4:05:08 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil

Schizophrenics are more dangerous than the psychiatric profession is willing to acknowledge, imho. They also have a higher rate of suicide than the normal.


78 posted on 09/04/2014 4:10:19 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

See post #61. There’s further information.


79 posted on 09/04/2014 4:17:54 PM PDT by kiryandil (making the jests that some FReepers aren't allowed to...)
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To: kiryandil; mabarker1

Guess ya got no sense of bein’ responsible for yer self.

When is the last time you were drunked up, passed out, in a truck stop parking lot?

Excessive, yes. That said, if some asshat points any weapon at me, they better shoot first...I’ll empty a mag in their face.


80 posted on 09/04/2014 4:24:28 PM PDT by SgtBob (Freedom is not for the faint of heart. Semper Fi!)
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