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Tesla Needs $3B in Tax Breaks for New Battery Factory
Fox Business ^ | September 4, 2014 | Elizabeth McDonald

Posted on 09/04/2014 11:15:35 AM PDT by jazusamo

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To: thackney

Hand them $3 billion and they would


21 posted on 09/04/2014 11:38:09 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: thackney

“pre-approved industrial and manufacturing uses”

And pre-designated as officially turtle free


22 posted on 09/04/2014 11:40:38 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: jazusamo
Uncle sugar won’t keep footing the bill.

Sure he will. The thing is, Uncle Sugar's pants have no pockets. So long as he can pick our pockets what does he care?

23 posted on 09/04/2014 11:40:50 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: mvpel
you should see what California does for the film industry.

Yet you hear the producers and actors complain about how little they get from Kookifornia so they have to move production to other more socialist generous states.

That three billion dollars is enough to bring in NFL teams for Las Vegas, Reno and Carson City.

24 posted on 09/04/2014 11:40:57 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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There are less than 3 million people living in NV. If I understand the article correctly and assuming it is NV who is going to write Elon a $3 billion check that is over $1,000 per man, woman and child in NV.


25 posted on 09/04/2014 11:43:26 AM PDT by C19fan
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So, $76,700 per employee per year for the first six years... and then why not do the math for the 20 years after that?

Given Nevada’s tax system, the only place where these breaks could come is in property taxes and sales taxes:

http://taxfoundation.org/state-tax-climate/nevada

They’re not going to waive sales taxes, so probably what’s going to happen is that they’ll defer or waive property taxes on incomplete, non-operational factory buildings and property under construction until they get up and running and generating income.

So the choice for Nevada is between putting a $600 million a year set of brakes on a $5 billion decades-long project, or losing out to another state and continuing to levy a $0 a year worth of property tax on a bunch of vacant desert land.


26 posted on 09/04/2014 11:48:04 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: C19fan
There are less than 3 million people living in NV. If I understand the article correctly and assuming it is NV who is going to write Elon a $3 billion check that is over $1,000 per man, woman and child in NV.

But that's exactly NOT what's going to happen. Don't be foolish.

They're currently collecting something very close to $0 per year worth of property tax on the windswept deserted land in question, and they'll continue to collect something closer to zero than $600 million on that land while the factory is under construction, while at the same time collecting millions more in property taxes on the new housing that will be built for the construction workers and early factory employees, and the sales tax for all their purchases at Wal*Mart and AutoZone.

27 posted on 09/04/2014 11:52:45 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: thorvaldr

I’ve had to deal with them on Pipeline projects around Vegas and farther south. I didn’t know their range extend as far north and higher elevations as Reno.


28 posted on 09/04/2014 11:55:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thorvaldr
Not close to Reno.


29 posted on 09/04/2014 11:58:50 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: jazusamo
Here's what bugs me with all this green energy, green transportation, stem cell research, Et al, if it's as profitable as the hucksters claim why do taxpayers have to pony up so much money they will never see a return on?

If the schemes the shysters promote are as profitable as they claim, there should be private investors begging them to take their money.

30 posted on 09/04/2014 11:59:04 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: C19fan

Why write them a check?

3b in tax breaks means the company keeps the profits and employs a bunch of folks to spend money. Selling land in Nevada to anybody is a win for the state.


31 posted on 09/04/2014 11:59:56 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: GeronL

They are not “handed” $3 billion.

They may pay $3 billion less in taxes. Far different.


32 posted on 09/04/2014 12:00:00 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: jazusamo

Well then they can go F-— themselves.


33 posted on 09/04/2014 12:00:17 PM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: C19fan
who is going to write Elon a $3 billion check

They are not writing any checks. If approved, the checks Elon writes to government would be reduced by $3 billion. That means the original tax checks for that time period would exceed $3 billion.

34 posted on 09/04/2014 12:02:23 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: thackney

The turtles are a metaphor. There’s always some sage grouse or jumping mouse or owl or something that derails projects the elite don’t care about but mysteriously is not an issue for ones they like.


35 posted on 09/04/2014 12:02:31 PM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: thackney
They are not “handed” $3 billion. They may pay $3 billion less in taxes. Far different.

Money being fungible, that's a distinction without a difference

36 posted on 09/04/2014 12:04:21 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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that's a distinction without a difference

I greatly disagree.

37 posted on 09/04/2014 12:05:10 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Covenantor

So the flip-side is to deny them 3b in tax breaks, save 3b in the process and watch the money roll in on a piece of useless dirt?

What?


38 posted on 09/04/2014 12:12:20 PM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: thorvaldr
The turtles are a metaphor.

Ok, I see your point. I've actually had work impeded by those turtles so I took it quite literally.

39 posted on 09/04/2014 12:12:52 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: GeronL
No more government favoritism. All corporations should have a level playing field

Exactly right. All should get the same breaks or none should get the breaks. Anything else is crony capitalism.
40 posted on 09/04/2014 12:14:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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