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Turkey refuses US permission for combat missions against ISIS: official
The Daily Star ^ | 9/11/14 | Agence France Presse

Posted on 09/11/2014 5:10:42 AM PDT by blueyon

ANKARA: Turkey will refuse to allow a US-led coalition to attack jihadists in neighbouring Iraq and Syria from its air bases, nor will it take part in combat operations against militants, a government official told AFP Thursday.

" Turkey will not be involved in any armed operation but will entirely concentrate on humanitarian operations," the official said on condition of anonymity.

The decision echoes the country's refusal to allow the US to station 60,000 troops in Turkey in 2003 to invade Iraq from the north, which triggered a crisis between the two allies.

Ankara then also refused Washington permission to use its air bases to attack Saddam Hussein's regime.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: erdogan; isil; isis; islamist; johnkerry; nato; obama; obamanewisisstrategy; saudiarabia; speech; syria; turkey
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To: blueyon

Um, we’re America. We don’t NEED your permission to fly OUR planes from OUR bases.


41 posted on 09/11/2014 5:58:46 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: blueyon

These turkeys did the exact same thing at the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

We should have split Iraq along ethnic lines and given them an independent Kurdistan right on their border as a reward for their duplicity.


42 posted on 09/11/2014 5:58:52 AM PDT by null and void (Only God Himself watches you more closely than the US government.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Right.

Gotta wonder just what his hidden agenda was......he had this plotted out from the getgo.

He connived his way into the Congress then duped the US into giving scrawny Turkey billions of our tax dollars.


43 posted on 09/11/2014 6:06:23 AM PDT by Liz
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To: blueyon

Wonderful. Would someone please explain why Turkey is in NATO?


44 posted on 09/11/2014 6:09:23 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: All
Boobamba is NOT surprised....read on

U.S. Aids Turkey in Creating an Islamic Caliphate Shoebat | 8/31/2014 | FR Posted by markomalley

Obama is sending Defense Secretary Hagel to Turkey to ratchet its efforts to tame ISIS while knowingly aware that Turkey is a supporter of ISIS! The efforts as they claim is to build what the administration termed Coalition of the Willing.

Hagel is being sent to intensify the push for an international campaign against ISIS. In his remarks during a briefing on Friday, Pentagon Press Secretary Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby said that Hagel will start his international trip to visit Wales, Georgia and Turkey.

“Turkey is a key NATO ally. Given its border with Syria and Iraq, [Turkey] shares our deep concerns with the regional threat posed by ISIL,” Kirby told reporters.Hagel’s Turkey visit is seen as part of the US’ search of support from the countries in the region. Turkey will be last stop on Hagel’s six-day trip that starts on Wednesday.This visit will mark Hagel’s first official trip to Turkey as Pentagon head.

“Hagel has longstanding relationships with Turkey’s leaders, including the newly inaugurated President (Sultan) Recep Tayyip Erdogan and the secretary views the upcoming visit as an important opportunity to advance the critical US-Turkey relationship,” Kirby said.

All this regardless that the Turkey-US ties became strained after the corruption probe when pro-government media accused the US ambassador of being behind the investigation and then-Prime Minister Erdogan threatened to expel the envoy. Bilateral relations then hit a rough patch when freedom of expression and press freedom deteriorated and anti-American and anti-Semitic rhetoric was used by Erdogan and other Turkish officials. --SNIP--

45 posted on 09/11/2014 6:12:16 AM PDT by Liz
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To: blueyon
Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is in his eleventh year of undermining Turkish democracy and Islamicizing the country. Erdogan is a friend of anti-American and soon-to-be-nuclear Iran. He despises democratic Israel and is unashamedly pro-Hamas.

Erdogan also has had various beefs with war-torn neighbors Syria and Iraq. Occasionally he has intervened against semi-autonomous and pro-American Kurdistan.

46 posted on 09/11/2014 6:25:10 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: blueyon

.......let us remember that the Saudis absolutely and vehemently deny any co-operation with Israel too yet the exact opposite is true!

These thousand year old cultures routinely lie about public policy. It’s expected, kinda like our country is becoming.


47 posted on 09/11/2014 6:30:39 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: blueyon

I believe he DID know this before his speech last night. Dog and pony show distraction of a mission planned to fail. Erdogan was prolly told to just wait it out. The optics of the air strikes will placate Western hawks, while at the same time garner more support for Erdogan among the Islamic faithful due to more western ‘meddling’ and ‘atrocities’.


48 posted on 09/11/2014 6:36:26 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: flaglady47

I think Turkey is kind of like the Hashemite nation of Jordan. They are not, generally speaking, extremists. But there are influential elements within their society who are, and who must be appeased to prevent a full-blown revolution. King Hussein of Jordan and his son, Abdullah, have done a good job of keeping their nation open to the West. Erdogan seems to be edging toward the Dark Side. Whether that’s due to the rising influence of the radicals in Turkey or simply his own prejudices, it’s hard to say. But relations between the US and Turkey are definitely chilling of late.


49 posted on 09/11/2014 6:39:25 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: agere_contra

I believe Turkey and Islamic State whatever are the same. Kind of an Ottoman Empire re-issue on the roll.


50 posted on 09/11/2014 6:41:07 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: dforest

“Time to bomb the crap out of them to reduce them in numbers.”

to zero.


51 posted on 09/11/2014 6:44:54 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: Netz

“... because the war on terror ended in November 2008.”

It has actually been turned inward.


52 posted on 09/11/2014 6:49:06 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: blueyon

Turkey will however accept any and all US arms smuggled from Libyan “freedom” fighters directed to the “opposition” forces fighting Syria’s Assad in a “Syrian Spring”. The “opposition”
is known as ISIS, created and supported by the US.

So, yes, obamaumao knew this (and WHY he continues to refer to them as ISIL by the way- the Levant includes Turkey and its dream of the caliphate, which WE are helping to form with this idiotic policy thanks to this muzzie and ms. jarrett). And the choir of mcinsane,grahamnesty, and boehner sing and provide cover for him, as they are paid by
forces and people unknown to conservatives.

Now the bahstud is trying to get us to pay for it— saying it’s not islamic— and to help continue the war against Assad, while we try to take back the Iraq lost by this same
bozo and his people. Because it was all Bush’s fault.


53 posted on 09/11/2014 6:51:29 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: BuffaloJack

“Not a problem. Just add Istambul to the Approved Targets List.”

I’m sure the Pansy Of The United States and Kerry are all over it.


54 posted on 09/11/2014 6:54:30 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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To: blueyon

We need to deal with the Kurds....recognize them as a free independent state....build a permanent airbase there and tell the Iraqis and the Turks to shove it!!!


55 posted on 09/11/2014 6:56:05 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Liz

BACKSTORY Countless US assets-—our embassies, ships and military bases are bombed——and rivers of blood-—our military and diplo- personnel savaged, killed, maimed and tortured by fanatics in Mideast hellholes-—and invariably the US gets the blame: “We weren’t stern enough, we weren’t strong enough”-—and my personal favorite——”we didn’t give them enough money,” etc etc etc.
Didn’t Al Capp, Lil Abner... have a comic strip about these going ons?


56 posted on 09/11/2014 7:03:58 AM PDT by rusureitflies?
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To: blueyon
Isis isn't Islamic, Christians boo Ted Cruz, now Turkey won't support us , so in the words of that great philosopher Randy Newman Lets drop the big one now
57 posted on 09/11/2014 7:42:55 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: John S Mosby

“And the choir of mcinsane,grahamnesty, and boehner sing and provide cover for him, as they are paid by
forces and people unknown to conservatives.”

“And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters.”


58 posted on 09/11/2014 8:02:28 AM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: ontap
We need to deal with the Kurds.... build a permanent airbase there and tell the Iraqis and the Turks to shove it!!!

How do you propose we adequately equip and supply it if we are then denied over flight rights to that base by the countries which surround it? Kurdistan is land locked.

Iraq is to the south, Turkey is to the north, and Iran is to the east. The only way in and out is to the west - and that is over Syria, whom we are bombing, and Iraq if one can figure out where the new Kurdistan border is.

Which of these can we depend upon to be our friends, again?

Now if we had maintained a residual force in Iraq this would be a piece of cake. But 0bama made sure we didn't. All our strategic positioning in the Middle East since we invaded Iraq is gone, p!ssed away.

59 posted on 09/11/2014 8:03:03 AM PDT by Gritty (To remain free, a people need the spirit of liberty. Once lost, there's no easy roads back.-Mk Steyn)
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To: ontap

Ask ole G.HW Bush about how we abandoned the Kurds so that the remnant Saddamites could further murder them.

ALL for the sake of the precious NATO ally that now has delusions of being the Caliphate HQ (as in days before WWI) and helps ISIS and wants Iraq for themselves.

The Kurds know these people, they know them as the ENEMY. Which is a far cry from obamaumao and the Bushie socialist lites or the clintonian socialisto germanium (with Bill being said to be “just like a son” to Barbara Bush— countryclub preppies just have to recognize true pervs when they see them).


60 posted on 09/11/2014 10:05:34 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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