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1 posted on 09/21/2014 4:48:33 AM PDT by Kaslin
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"Play the game! Play the game, or else! How dare you not play the game???"
144 posted on 09/21/2014 6:57:05 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL-GALT-DELETE])
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Well I would like to see us retake the Senate but I observed in Nov 2012 that we had just gone past the ballot box. This country is not going to be fixed by the GOP taking over the Senate. At some point there is going to be a resolution conflict and it will hopefully be resolved.

I am still waiting for even one GOP legislator to outline the list of rogue or unnecessary govt agnecies the Republicans plan to slash and/or shutter when they take control. I suspect its because they have no list nor any plans to greatly reduce the size and scope of govt which is the single core problem.

Its the bureaucracy stupid.


154 posted on 09/21/2014 7:09:36 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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If the Democrats win in November, America is finished as we know it and that is no exaggeration.


159 posted on 09/21/2014 7:18:37 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Go take a running jump, a**hole!

The ESTABLISHMENT NON-CONSERVATIVES have cost us the senate should we lose it. Their DESPICABLE actions in Mississippi reverberated across the country. The shameful defense of incumbents by the RNC is an affront to democracy, and the uniquitous presence of perennial LOSER, Karl Rove, makes me want to vomit!

You wonder why people aren’t shelling out cash in this Obamaconomy to the Repubican Party? It doesn’t stand for anything!

I will support conservative candidates because THAT is what the GOP platform purports to espouse, conservatism. Mighty Mouse Mitch and his incumbent buddies can go suck eggs. They had no trouble smearing and crushing citizen legislators who sought to challenge their monopoly, they should have no trouble dispatching the rats.

You made your bed, GOP.


164 posted on 09/21/2014 7:24:24 AM PDT by Viennacon
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This has been a very interesting thread, but I’m glad that I didn’t waste my time posting arguments. Spent yesterday with my one day old granddaughter, and the wisdom that comes from her was much better than reading this nonsense.

The common theme in all of this is a very simplistic argument that because the Republican Party is not ideologically pure and would prefer to win rather than go down to defeat supporting an unelectable candidate, they do not deserve our support. The convoluted logic is that another two years with Harry Reid as Majority Leader is a better outcome and will teach those wishy washy Republicans a lesson.

One of the most striking aspects of these comments is what is missing. Elections are not about individual races, or even the political philosophy of individual candidates. Elections are about political power and power is exercised through the two major political parties. Nothing else counts. As the Democrats have demonstrated, you don’t need to have a majority in your party to exercise control. Most Democrats aren’t the lunatic lefties who control the Congress and the White House, but they go along with the leadership and the Democrats advance their agenda. This is what the conservatives need to do and they can achieve this by electing conservatives to both local and national office and seizing control of the party leadership. That is done with a few quality candidates, not a full slate of self selected knuckleheads who are never going to win an election.

Also missing is any mention of how power is exercised in the Senate. The most powerful people in Washington are the Chairmen of Senate committees. They are appointed by the Majority Leader which is the number one reason why we need a Republican Majority Leaders. A number of those committee chairs will be rock solid conservatives and they will have real power to advance a conservative agenda. That’s why the pledge of the purists that they will only vote a real conservative is a self defeating behavior. It fails to recognize how power is organized and applied.

Conservatives have been much more successful in this cycle nominating electable candidates who can win races in the General Election. The weak ones did not survive the primaries. Are there establishment types still in play? Of course, you cannot dismiss the power of incumbency or the plain fact that die hard conservative purists do not represent a majority in the Republican Party. See how the Democrats handle that same dynamic and use it to win. Those establishment types are much more likely to support a conservative issue than any Democrat will ever be.


167 posted on 09/21/2014 7:25:39 AM PDT by centurion316
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It is the fault of establishment Republicans.no let me put it bluntly it is the fault of rich Republicans and rich Democrats. They live in their own world and by their own word are’working together to get things done. The control of the media by the Dems is as much the fault of Rich Republicans as it is gentry wealthy Dem’s(who seem to run the country. The GOP wealthy voters(I’m not just taking about party politicians I’m talking about the entire class of Republican business types. They are not contributing like their counter parts in hell are doing. They do not buy media and the allow their trust fund kids to run the foundations that they set up. On top of that they are out of stupidity or greed supporting the Democrat take over strategy by helping them promote amnesty. Since they are only conservative when it comes to their wallets. I think we should oppose all tax cuts and business legislation until the borders are secure and the media is fair and they start contributing what they need to like their dem counter parts do. Why should they not get any tax cuts? Because, what is happening in this country is their fault, that’s why.


168 posted on 09/21/2014 7:25:47 AM PDT by amnestynone (A big government conservative is just a corporatist who is not paying enough taxes.)
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I’ve been listening to this same damn argument for 14 years. For the longest time, I went with it. I did my best in the primaries, then fully supported the candidate that made it through.

And what are we getting for it?

They eat their own. They treat the constitution conservatives as if we’re an inconvenience. They aren’t doing their jobs. The ones who really are trying are slapped into the dirt by their own part.

Compromise = we lose and the democrats keep advancing their socialist agenda.

The centralists are arrogant and, if our opinion means so little to them, then so does our money. I’m not listening to the RNC any more. I’m not giving them my money any more. (We a monthly donor for years.) I’m not taking their phone calls and I am not supporting them.

And I flat-out refuse to play the ‘lesser of two evils’ game with them. It doesn’t work.


172 posted on 09/21/2014 7:28:28 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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bttt


175 posted on 09/21/2014 7:29:43 AM PDT by wildbill (If you check behind the shower curtain for a murderer, and find one... what's your plan?)
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On the limited point of the following statement I agree with the writer:

Getting rid of Reid is more important than getting rid of Obama and IF it comes down to supporting a RINO or supporting a democrat (by not voting) then we must all hold our nose and vote for the RINO ! At least we can almost certainly count on that RINO vote against Obama SC nominees.


180 posted on 09/21/2014 7:35:34 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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Derek Hunter should ponder the meaning of that old Americanism:

“I ain’t got a dog in that fight.”


188 posted on 09/21/2014 7:42:18 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (I ain't got a dog in that fight.)
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Derek Hunter doesn’t just drink the Rove Kool-Aid, he bathes in it.

The establishment called us racist. They enlisted Democrats to defeat us in Mississippi. They are hoisted on their own petard.

They don’t want my vote, so if they want the Senate they can damn well win it themselves.

I have only one “pet issue”: opposing Obama and Reid. When Republicans run candidates who will do that, they can earn my vote. When they run McConnell and Cochran, they can forget it.


189 posted on 09/21/2014 7:42:31 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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Why don’t Republicans say what they stand for ? It seems to me that their total program is - we are not Barack Obama, but we will continue to support or even enhance his policies ! Talk about eliminating three letter agencies, do away with the minimum wage, the military is to be used to win battles - to Hell with collateral damage, etc.


196 posted on 09/21/2014 7:46:33 AM PDT by jlindseyx1942 (Namaste)
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quote “It’s not the Senate that’s on the ballot this fall; it’s the Supreme Court.”

ROFL!

oh, that's a good one!

We could win EVERY Senate seat up in November and the Senate would STILL rubber stamp ANY Obama nominee to the court!

Yes, if we had the majority, a few Republican senators would make a good show for the cameras, but in the end the Senate would approve ANY nominee.

212 posted on 09/21/2014 8:00:03 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Democrats Are Poised To Hold The Senate, And It’s Conservative’s Fault

You must hate Sara Palin then. She doesn't seem to agree with your logic.

216 posted on 09/21/2014 8:01:43 AM PDT by McGruff
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Election hasn’t been held yet, has it? And the campaigns have not really even begun.


236 posted on 09/21/2014 8:23:45 AM PDT by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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If you stay home, or if you simply vote and that’s it, you might as well be working for Harry Reid and Barack Obama. If the Supreme Court is lost, it will be lost for at least a generation. Then it won’t matter who you elect or who the next president is, the progressive agenda will be locked in as the law of the land for the foreseeable future.

You have a choice this fall: Sit on the bench or work to defeat whoever the Democrat is running for the Senate in your state. One choice is a vote for Harry Reid for Senate Majority Leader and more cover for President Obama’s abuses of power. The other will at a minimum apply pressure on the hemorrhaging wound from which our liberty is seeping.
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The man who wrote this article is exactly right- and if the opinions expressed here are representative of the stance of most of the nation’s Republicans, we can forget winning the Senate. Period.

And those of you who stayed home, voted third party or ‘write-in’ helped put the Muslim in office and keep him there.

You’re not proving anything. Sure most of the Republicans are spineless or Rinos- but what else is there right now?
The Rats are worse. Much worse.

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256 posted on 09/21/2014 8:44:28 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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This guy doesn’t get it and never will, the squishy, Rove “R”s would still vote to confirm another Kagan or whatever abomination Obola nominates. Rove candidates taking the Senate will probably change nothing..


274 posted on 09/21/2014 9:20:04 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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As if it would make a difference anyway.


281 posted on 09/21/2014 9:50:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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The pubbies declared war upon us, lied about us, insulted us, demeaned us, mocked us, but most importantly betrayed us when we elected them. Their candidates are feckless and apparently stand for nothing as their imploding campaigns show. Yet now the elites expect the abused base to come to your rescue. If you had beat us on ideas we would have supported you. But you didn't. A child could have won the senate in this election, so the GOP elites are dumber then children. Well Karl Rove and Haley Barbour are their representatives so... I suggest the author scold the elites and counsel their candidates to stand for something and fight. But I do not think they have the intelligence or backbone to do either. And I don't think the author has a lick of sense. Go scold someone else.
289 posted on 09/21/2014 10:04:26 AM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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It’s a twofer - the GOP-e for depressing GOP enthusiasm and MAYBE the GOP vote, and the grass roots GOP for MAYBE letting them.


308 posted on 09/21/2014 10:47:33 AM PDT by Wuli
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