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Poland stages major manoeuvres amid Russia tensions
AFP ^ | September 23, 2014

Posted on 09/23/2014 4:44:29 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Poland kicks off major military exercises involving eight NATO partners on Wednesday amid the West's worst standoff with Russia since the end of the Cold War sparked by differences over the Ukraine crisis.

Organised every two years since 2006, this year's Anaconda manoeuvres involve 12,500 soldiers, with 750 from NATO members the US and Britain among others, the Polish defence ministry said, adding the event "has become a permanent training element of the North Atlantic alliance".

The exercises are designed to coordinate cooperation with NATO's rapid reaction forces, created at the alliance's Cardiff summit earlier this month.

They also come as the US State Department approved this week the possible sale to Poland of air-to-surface missiles as part of plans to equip and upgrade Warsaw's fleet of F-16s.

Poland has earmarked 33.6 billion euros ($43 billion) to upgrade its military equipment over 10 years, including acquiring a missile shield, armoured personnel carriers, submarines and drones.

Amid the escalation of the conflict in Ukraine, Polish President Bronislaw Komorowski proposed raising defence spending to 2.0 percent of GDP, from the current 1.95 percent.

Poland, a former Soviet satellite state with a population of 38 million, joined NATO in 1999 a decade after shedding communism.

(Excerpt) Read more at expatica.ru ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; f16; germany; nato; poland; putinsbuttboys; russia; ukraine; unitedkingdom
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Who raped whom this time?


21 posted on 09/24/2014 10:39:32 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
Who raped whom this time?

The Russkies, who have not changed from their raping and mutilating ways since WWII:

This one was not raped, but came close:

"He was yelling non-stop and waving his knife close to my face…. He was hitting me on the knees with handcuffs, then poked me with his knife on one knee, pushed the knife in by half an inch, and turned it. He did the same to my other knee. He would run out and then come back and torture me again. He threatened me with gang rape. The whole thing continued for some two hours and the other four were just watching, like in a theater…."

"Finally, he says, “Bow your head. It’s time to kill you!” and slashed me on the back of my neck. So, my neck is bleeding, my hands and arms are all cut up and bleeding – the lacerations are deep – and he drags me to another room on the first floor with some armed people in it. Those people actually asked me questions – in which events I took part, what kind of activism I was involved in. They said that if I wanted to live I had to trick other activists and journalists into coming to them."

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/28/ukraine-rebel-forces-detain-torture-civilians

Others are not so lucky:

"When she was preparing to go for work, a shelling begun. She grabbed her handbag, money, papers and rushed to bomb shelter. Walking out, she said loudly “Fed up with those ruskie fascist bombings”. Tho chavs who were in the same shelter heard it. One of them chased her to the station with two thug friends of him and pointed at her telling she calls russians fascists. They forced her to car and took her money. Than they came to her home, found something they called “Polish insigna” and accused her of being a “Polish ground observer” and “spy”. They harassed and raped her…"

They also carved up her face:

"Everyone has a face, but she had none, just some mincemeat on its place. There was no untouched spot on her body, cuts and blood everywhere. Hands are locked in handcuffs behind her back. I was a kind of kicked back into reality. I saw such things before only in horror movies."

http://einsamerkrieger.wordpress.com/2014/09/21/russian-world/

22 posted on 09/24/2014 10:45:38 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Do you realize that some 10000 US servicemen were convicted for sexual assaults against French women, who weren’t even an enemy?
As for a Germans vs Russians their estimates are inflated. In 1945 Germany still had a racist law prescribing aborting for an ‘ethnic purity’ reasons. Any woman who wanted an abortion (and there were many because a few could afford even to feed themselves) simply went to the doctors claiming pregnancy as a result of rape by the Soviet soldier of Tatar or Chinese ethnicity. Problem solved and here we got fake records. I’m not saying that rapes didn’t happened at all but it not a unique problem related to the Soviets. war is war.


23 posted on 09/24/2014 10:54:47 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
Do you realize that some 10000 US servicemen were convicted for sexual assaults against French women, who weren’t even an enemy?

I guess that makes it okay, you filthy propagandist? But Russkies don't just rape, particularly in WWII. They even rape to the point of death, everyone, and with rapes numbering in the millions, from young children to old ladies, even Russian and Polish women "liberated" from concentration camps, as a part of state policy:

"Stalin said people should ' understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometres through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle'.

On another occasion, when told that Red Army soldiers sexually maltreated German refugees, he said: 'We lecture our soldiers too much; let them have their initiative.' While Stalin condoned rape as an instrument of state military policy, his police chief Lavrenti Beria was a serial rapist.

An American diplomat, Beria's bodyguard and the Russian actress Tatiana Okunevskaya all bore witness of his methods of grabbing women off the street and shoving them into his limousine and then his bed.

'You are a long way from anywhere, so whether you scream or not does not matter,' Beria would tell the women when he got them back to his dacha. 'You are in my power now. So think about that and behave accordingly.'

More than 100 school-aged girls and young women were drugged and raped by the man who ran the NKVD, the feared forerunner to the KGB.

'All of which means, of course, that if reports of Red Army soldiers raping women in eastern Europe were sent to the NKVD in Moscow, they finally reached the desk of a rapist himself,' says Rees.

The rape of Berlin's female population - anyone between the ages of 13 and 70 was in danger - was cruelly vicious.

In one heart-breaking incident, a Berlin lawyer, who had somehow protected his Jewish wife from persecution throughout the Nazi period, was shot trying to protect her from rape by Red Army soldiers. As he lay dying of his wounds, he saw his wife being gang-raped.

'They do not speak a word of Russian, but that makes it easier,' one Red Army soldier wrote in a letter home in February 1945. 'You don't have to persuade them. You just point a revolver and tell them to lie down. Then you do your stuff and go away.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1080493/Stalins-army-rapists-The-brutal-war-crime-Russia-Germany-tried-ignore.html#ixzz3EG20U8Yz Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

24 posted on 09/24/2014 11:05:41 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

One wrong doesn’t make another wrong right but it was you who brought rapes into discussion. I’m not justifying violence here, it is you who enjoys this intellectual porn.


25 posted on 09/24/2014 11:09:27 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
One wrong doesn’t make another wrong right

Unless you are a filthy Russkie proagandist, in which case, 10,000 rapes committed by Americans in WWII is equivalent to 2 million rapes by Russian soldiers (other estimates, 15 million), and the rapes, kidnappings, torture, and mass murder, committed by Russian today against the "eeeevil Nazi Ukrainian Junta."

26 posted on 09/24/2014 11:15:16 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I have just explained you where they got their 2000000 inflated number. And of course you may not be that gullible to suppose that 10000 convicted rapists does mean 10000 actual rapes. Even in peace time only one in ten assaults are prosecuted.


27 posted on 09/24/2014 11:19:30 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
I have just explained you where they got their 2000000 inflated number.

No you didn't you filthy Russian Chauvinist. And as for "inflated," 2,000,000 is much too low. The number is closer to 15 million, no matter what the Russian revisionists have to say about it. And they're still at it too.

28 posted on 09/24/2014 1:24:05 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Navy Patriot

No way 38 million takes out a country of 200 million, unless you have an absurd about of military technology a la Germany 1930’s.


29 posted on 09/24/2014 5:27:22 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If only ignorance was counted as a merit you could be a saint, puny. East Germany don’t ever had 15 million women at any period of history. I actually had three grands WWII vets. Two granddad were air force and navy starbuck so they haven’t interacted with the civies but grammy was an infantry girl and went through the war down to Berlin. She said violence happened but it was nowhere near prevalent and actually never supported by either fellow soldiers and command. If a victim was serious about prosecuting a perp it has usually ended with the fire squad for rapist. I think I can trust her because she is kind an impartial due to her gender. She said prostitution was a bigger problem. There was little to none to eat and German women could offer themselves to a can of beans.


30 posted on 09/25/2014 6:41:54 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: wetphoenix
If only ignorance was counted as a merit you could be a saint, puny. East Germany don’t ever had 15 million women at any period of history.

The Russkies weren't just raping Germans. But other Russians, Poles, anyone they could get their hands on, from young to old. And not just "women," as in adults, but children on up to grandmas.

31 posted on 09/25/2014 6:44:55 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: wetphoenix
i> I actually had three grands WWII vets. Two granddad were air force and navy starbuck so they haven’t interacted with the civies but grammy was an infantry girl and went through the war down to Berlin. She said violence happened but it was nowhere near prevalent and actually never supported by either fellow soldiers and command.

Then your family is full of liars, as we know Stalin approved of it and had rapists working beneath him in high positions. We have letters from soldiers detailing their crimes without any shame. We have testimony from survivors, including stories of Russians gathering groups of women, raping each one of them, cutting off breasts, raping them with bottles, sticks, whatever, when too drunk to continue. And all of this watched over by your commanders and ordered by them. Your country also protects and refuses to extradite gulag guards who are serial rapists, torturers and mass murderers, and calls them "honorable veterans."

This is not a matter of debate. These are facts of history. It is only in your communist country where the crimes of the Soviet Union, especially in WWII, are whitewashed.

I think I can trust her because she is kind an impartial due to her gender.

Brainwashed commies can never be trusted. This is why we have to fight them constantly.

32 posted on 09/25/2014 6:49:52 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
~We have testimony from survivors, including stories of Russians gathering groups of women, raping each one of them, cutting off breasts, raping them with bottles, sticks, whatever, when too drunk to continue. And all of this watched over by your commanders and ordered by them. Your country also protects and refuses to extradite gulag guards who are serial rapists, torturers and mass murderers, and calls them "honorable veterans."~
33 posted on 09/25/2014 6:59:13 AM PDT by wetphoenix
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Thanks Tailgunner Joe.
Organised every two years since 2006, this year's Anaconda manoeuvres involve 12,500 soldiers, with 750 from NATO members the US and Britain among others, the Polish defence ministry said, adding the event "has become a permanent training element of the North Atlantic alliance".

34 posted on 09/27/2014 4:02:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

/bingo


35 posted on 09/27/2014 4:04:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wetphoenix

36 posted on 09/28/2014 3:46:00 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Pity poor Poland .... it is only a matter of time before His Arrogance sells them out upholding the tradition of previous Progressives.

Obama never supported Poland and Ukraine. Just a little to much independence-from-tyranny going on there.

37 posted on 09/28/2014 8:16:18 AM PDT by FreeReign
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