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Texas Ebola Patient's Possible Contacts Now Reach 100
ABC ^ | 10/02/14

Posted on 10/02/2014 8:16:57 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: UCANSEE2; PastorBooks; Nevadan

Just found this in a web search, the most detailed information I seen, the consensus of multiple sites say they just don’t know for sure, but this one says why viruses survive longer than bacteria.

For what its worth:

How long can Ebola live outside the body?
Fwmh
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Similar to many things with the Ebolaviruses, their ability to survive outside a living organism is not well-known or studied. Most viruses, contrary to popular belief and the characteristics of bacteria, cannot survive long against the raw elements. The usual influenza or cold virus will survive outside living tissue for about three days, but other viruses, namely HIV, can only make due for a couple of minutes. Ebola is certainly a hardy virus and might be able to make it for over a week but no less than three or four days. So the range is anywhere from three to ten days in all likelihood. The reason viruses die so quickly outside (and bacteria do not) is because, when hit with high-energy electromagnetic waves (for instance, sunlight), they break apart with their abyssal level protection. Since viruses do not actually “eat,” they cannot starve, and they do not get too cold (but can get too hot, for their proteins denature; why did you think we get fevers?). In general, very little is known about Ebola. Even how it is transmitted is unknown.


SURVIVAL OUTSIDE HOST: The virus can survive in liquid or dried material for a number of days. Infectivity is found to be stable at room temperature or at 4°C for several days, and indefinitely stable at -70°C.


61 posted on 10/02/2014 9:13:13 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping…

A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread

62 posted on 10/02/2014 9:15:02 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Enlightened1

If you see something like this on a persons arm...RUN LIKE HELL!

63 posted on 10/02/2014 9:15:03 AM PDT by jetson
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To: UCANSEE2

I agree that the morbidity rate of EVD-68, Chikungunya, and Dengue Fever may be significantly higher -— we shall see how this ebola episode plays out -— but the MORTALITY rate is the thing that makes the difference. Sick is sick, but dead . . .


64 posted on 10/02/2014 9:17:32 AM PDT by LTC.Ret (I was Constitutional Conservative when it wasn't Cool)
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To: Prince of Space

His *wife*. He’s married. And, apparently, a lot of family came by to see him when he came here. (He’s visited the US many times)


65 posted on 10/02/2014 9:18:11 AM PDT by Marie (When are they going to take back Obama's peace prize?)
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To: gdani

Well, I do realize this is serious, but another factor that (in this case) might diminish its spread is that it’s a tropical disease, and North Texas is nowhere near tropical in its climate. It’s much dryer at any time of the year and gets much colder in the winter.

Now if gets started in Florida, I’ll be less optimistic...


66 posted on 10/02/2014 9:27:28 AM PDT by livius
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To: Marie

While this ebola gift from the nobama administration to the American people is troublesome, I am more worried about dieing from the continued deranged and anti-American policies of the many many LIBs who (unfortunately) exist.


67 posted on 10/02/2014 9:27:37 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: PoloSec

Doctor this a.m. on Laura Ingraham show: Ebola virus can live for 6 days
on a surface...


68 posted on 10/02/2014 9:27:59 AM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: wrench

http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/11/3/pdfs/04-0981.pdf

“This study suggests that dogs can be infected by Ebola virus and that the putative infection is asymptomatic.”

The paper describes several ebola-related tests done on dogs in Africa and in France. Lots of dogs showed signs of exposure to ebola. Dogs were more likely to show signs of exposure in villages with human ebola outbreaks; dogs in villages with NO ebola in humans were also affected, but at lower rates. It’s possible that some dogs were exposed from wild animals, but no definite link was established in the paper.

The dogs did NOT get sick from ebola.

“Given the frequency of contact between humans and domestic dogs, canine Ebola infection must be considered as a potential risk factor for human infection and virus spread. Human infection could occur through licking, biting, or grooming. Asymptomatically infected dogs could be a potential source of human Ebola outbreaks and of virus spread during human outbreaks, which could explain some epidemiologically unrelated human cases.”

In short, infected dogs MIGHT be a risk to humans, but the paper stops short of saying the risk is certain. No definite cases of dog-to-human transmission were reported. On the other hand, not every human case in the epidemic during 2001-2002 had a known cause. Dogs can’t be ruled out.


69 posted on 10/02/2014 9:28:15 AM PDT by Jordo
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To: Alter Kaker

A lot of kids are getting the enterovirus.


70 posted on 10/02/2014 9:28:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
Keep believing that. Would you sit next to him on a flight?

If given the choice between assuming a low risk of contracting a deadly disease and no risk, of course I'd pick no risk, all else being equal. What's your point? Of course the only way to have zero risk of catching anything is to go Howard Hughes and live in complete isolation from humanity - but not too many people do that.

71 posted on 10/02/2014 9:31:22 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: ilovesarah2012
A lot of kids are getting the enterovirus.

Yep. Which is far more infectious than ebola.

72 posted on 10/02/2014 9:31:50 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

It won’t take too much to eat up every hospital bed in America, with all of the other viruses on the loose at the moment, our abundance of beds will seem like such a quaint view in a very short time...


73 posted on 10/02/2014 9:32:33 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: wrench
Dogs, casts, bats, and many other mammals can transmit this disease through their bites or by consuming their flesh

That's just nonsense with zero supporting evidence. In fact, quite the contrary. Genetic evidence indicates that the current West African epidemic had a SINGLE animal to human jump - the first case. All other cases have been human to human.

74 posted on 10/02/2014 9:33:50 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Delta Dawn
It won’t take too much to eat up every hospital bed in America, with all of the other viruses on the loose at the moment, our abundance of beds will seem like such a quaint view in a very short time...

Maybe you're right and we'll all be dead in a few weeks and we should panic and light our hair on fire. However at the moment there is no shortage of hospital capacity anywhere in the US.

75 posted on 10/02/2014 9:35:30 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Time will tell if and how quickly it spreads. But I don’t believe anything the government says.


76 posted on 10/02/2014 9:37:23 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Enlightened1

Ebola = Ebama = Obola


77 posted on 10/02/2014 9:38:05 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Alter Kaker

Source?


78 posted on 10/02/2014 9:38:09 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Alter Kaker
"However at the moment there is no shortage of hospital capacity anywhere in the US."

Really?

Health care economics, politics and demographics have triggered an epidemic of hospital closures around the country. And the trend is likely to continue.

79 posted on 10/02/2014 9:39:10 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: wrench
Maybe, but none as deadly as Ebola. A screw up with the flu make you sick for a few days, a screw up with the big E makes you dead

A screw up with the flu is actually more likely to kill you. Between 1976 and 2007 deaths varied wildly, but influenza typically killed 3,000 to 49,000 Americans every year. That's far more people than have died in Africa of ebola, and obviously zero people have died as of yet in America.

80 posted on 10/02/2014 9:39:28 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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