Posted on 10/11/2014 4:06:45 AM PDT by Kaslin
Sorry - I was a Green Beret too... but this guy is up a tree.
You don’t ban flights - you shut down issuing Visas... discussing of banning flights is a straw man argument... It is not needed... The average West African has absolutely no pressing need to visit American.. Ninety Percent of them just go to visit relatives and some would go to get treatment for Ebola... No one is talking about banning flights TO West African and cutting off flights from there is NOT THE POINT.. There are not thousands of West Africans doing business deals in the states that will suffer if they are not allowed visit - hogwash... We are not talking about walling off in 1918 technology - we are talking about 2014 where a person’s entire travel history is in his/her passport - VISA —— Where they have been before - there stamps in and out of Europe to take flights to America ... This guys is not looking at the FACTS is equating a 1918 experience with technology of the time to 2014 ... Good GRIEF!!!
Keeping West Africans from coming to America would hurt their economy... I don’t believe it for an instant... any analysis would show not to be true... But anyway - So given the countries more financial aid — BUT KEEP THEM THERE-— they have no need to be in America —next to none.
Fully 1/2 of West Africans in America NOW are here on Visa Over Stay Illegal Alien Status
Seems more delusional to think they are telling us everything...
Well, being up a tree, politically speaking is a pretty safe place to be apparently (these days)...
Until someone comes around with an axe, chainsaw, or fire...
Politics creates cowards, and those that have served bravely in the past in our armed forces are susceptible to its corruption (if you choose to get into that game), that disease has a high percentage of transfer, and it is hard to inoculate...
Just my opinion...
exactly
In 1918, you didn’t have jet aircraft that could transport hundreds of people from one side of the earth to the other in a matter of hours.
If I understood the logic correctly, and I’ll summarize it succinctly:
“We shouldn’t institute a ban because we shouldn’t institute a ban.”
Did I pretty well capture that entire argument with all its facts and excruciating detail?
I’m with you. What economy? These counties are in economic and governance freefall. Total chaos is about to reign.
Surprise! Surprise! Surprise
What a coincidence, same straw man argument of stopping flights from Spain as you asked.
Nice try, but I knew I was right.
west Africans with the ability to do so, most probably the best educated, financially better off and more aware of disease prevention, are coming to the US and other non-affected countries and thus avoiding Ebola. They're also avoiding responsibility in their homelands, while US military and caregivers are expected to solve the problem.
Let them stay home and help themselves. We cannot and should not enable those who could be trained to avoid responsibility to their own nations. The money they're spending on flights to leave? Better it be spent to improve health care where they should stay.
“Keeping West Africans from coming to America would hurt their economy... I don’t believe it for an instant... “
The reason you don’t believe it is because nobody above the level of idiot would believe it.
An outbreak in this country and the entire worlds economy will go in the crapper, not so with an African economy, so the economy BS just doesn’t hold water.
Why are you obsessed with me? I did not even post on this thread. Surely you must need medical help.
Welcome to see the strawman fallacy. Libs love appealing to the most rediculous emotional and illogical side of the mind to try and justify whatever they do as a cult, or a peer acceptance group.
Congratulations on being more logical than the writer of this fallacious piece.
Just given that fact, forget the Ebola, I’m for cutting off issuing visas to citizens of those countries.
I thought democrats always support over reaching and over spending with the Slogan of “if it saves just one life”. They will ban guns, create gun free zones, dismantle working health care systems, .... If it saves just one life they will move mountains. Why not now?
Wait....we quarantine cattle and animals coming into our country to test for disease, and protect our herds.
Yet......we won’t quarantine people from infected countries to protect our humans....genius!
The main reason they don’t want to start keeping people from other countries from coming in is that when Mexico starts up an Ebola crisis we don’t want to have to do the same to them.
Obsessed?
I knew when you posted that question about stopping flights from Spain it was a straw man argument.
You’ve been caught and you are trying to do a CYA.
That is the same distorted ‘logic’ that the normally-intelligent guy I was discussing this with yesterday used.
We practically had the exact same conversation, except I kept referencing a CDC doc from 2012 I referenced in a comment here at FR that mentions not ONCE geographically isolating a pathogen. It discusses SARS, Ebola et al, but apparently no lesson has been learned about isolating human carriers when we’re essentially doing the same Bucci’s asserting with monkeys that come into this country. His interview was ‘ok’, but he obviously hasn’t done his homework.
I don’t think Ebola will become a problem here. At all. However, should it become one after mutating in Africa, it will be because of that ‘logic’ and it will be ‘owned’ 100% by liberals.
When that happens, I sincerely hope “Ebola does its job well”...because between that ‘logic’ and the ‘manufactured crisis’ being promoted by this inept administration, frankly...I’d rather deal with Ebola.
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