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'Dragon's Egg': Marines who guarded Saddam's mysterious bunker fear weapons unleashed
Fox News ^ | 10.17.2014 | Paul Alster

Posted on 10/17/2014 2:01:37 PM PDT by dware

The U.S. Marines who guarded the sprawling complex in northwest Iraq where Saddam Hussein’s 1980s war machine churned out some of the most deadly chemical and biological weapons known to man had a name for one especially mysterious bunker: The Dragon’s Egg.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 105mmshells; 155mmshell; 1983; 200811; 20081102; 201410; almuthana; almuthanna; bunker13; bunker41; chemicalweapons; dragonsegg; gas; iraq; iraqiwmd; iraqwmds; isis; karlrove; mustard; muthana; muthanna; nervegas; saddam; saddamhussein; sarin; tabun; vx; wmd; wmds
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To: dware

Liberals have no problem holding two contrary ideas in ther heads at the same time. Part of the insanity


41 posted on 10/17/2014 6:53:49 PM PDT by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: dware

The UN was there on February 13, 2003 before the US invasion where they destroyed some 4 plastic drums of mustard; how liberals came to believe there was nothing at all is an amazing feat of willful ignorance.


42 posted on 10/17/2014 8:23:52 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: dware
Since this has now come public, I won't mind my say in the whole thing.

From the start in Afghanistan through the Fall of Baghdad, I was assigned to a Special Operations Command Battlestaff. Exactly what my job was isn't relevant right now. We were required to read all Situation Reports (SITREP's) coming out of the Middle East from any branch of service to determine if it was going to impact any of our operations either on-going or future planned. I mostly read the JCS Intel Reports. These were a mix of raw intel reports followed by analyst observations and recommendations.

To say that nobody reported these WMD stashes is not true. I would read daily reports, sometimes two or three a day. It was usually a patrol that found some unusual shells/rocket/mortar, pull out their trusty UXO (Unexploded Ordinance) cheat sheet, and realize they're looking at a mustard gas shell complete with markings, or a sarin gas shell. The initial report goes back via encrypted radio requesting a specialized team to come look at it and verify. The initial request, summary report, digital pictures, analyst report, and recommendations were reaching the JCS within 24 hours of discovery.

We were directed that releasing this information is bad OPSEC, because it would alert the AIF (Anit-Iraqi Forces) or Al-Quada In Iraq that there are indeed stashes of these WMD's and they would go on a massive hunt to find them.

We've all seen on one news story or another the horrific blast when old artillery shells are wired together to make an IED. Now imagine if they were to use chemical shells instead of just high explosives.

So, to answer the questions. Yes there were WMD's. Yes Sadam was manufacturing the even while the UN weapons inspectors were there. Yes these WMD's were reported (Up-channeled via secure communications). No it was not reported to the media.

My personal opinion is that Pres. Bush took a knife in the back to keep the existance of these WMD's a secret to prevent their use as IED's.

43 posted on 10/17/2014 9:26:40 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Traveler59

I read somewhere that a VX round was used in an IED, but the chemicals didn’t mix prior to detonation. The firing of the projectile breaks one of the vials and the spin mixes the formula. The round wasn’t fired, so no mixing.

Do you know anything about that?


44 posted on 10/17/2014 10:53:49 PM PDT by Loud Mime (arguetheconstitution.com See if the video makes sense to you.)
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To: KC_Lion

Let’s hope not! We have Ebola. The last thing we need is freakin’ dragons too. Although, ... we might could shoot dragons.


45 posted on 10/17/2014 11:50:28 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: GeronL; null and void; Slings and Arrows; Nachum

Don’t touch the idol PING


46 posted on 10/18/2014 1:26:33 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Hey Obama: If Islamic State is not Islamic, then why did you give Osama Bin Laden a muslim funeral?)
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To: Loud Mime

Yes. Let’s see if I can find the link for you


47 posted on 10/18/2014 1:42:10 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Loud Mime
Here you go:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/05/19/tests-confirm-sarin-in-iraqi-artillery-shell/

48 posted on 10/18/2014 1:43:39 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: Loud Mime

This one full of sarin precursors was set off and hurt some troops ; another one was discovered as part of an IED that didn’t go off; in that case it contained mustard gas/oil.


49 posted on 10/18/2014 1:46:29 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Pardon me, the second one was found on the roadside but wasn’t necessarily part of an IED. Maybe it fell off a truck.


50 posted on 10/18/2014 2:02:24 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Polish troops found two 122mm shells that tested positive for sarain and locals took them to a cache of 16 similar chem shells which may never have been filled. Iraq had to be careful as I recall on filling too many shells ahead of time as their chemicals were often impure and very corrosive or did not store well.


51 posted on 10/18/2014 2:07:19 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: KC_Lion

52 posted on 10/18/2014 5:39:49 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: piasa

Thanks. This information becomes stranger and worse.


53 posted on 10/18/2014 6:06:42 AM PDT by Loud Mime (arguetheconstitution.com See if the video makes sense to you.)
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To: dware

Gruesome photos may show ISIS using chemical weapons on Kurds...

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/13/gruesome-photos-may-show-isis-using-chemical-weapons-on-kurds-says-report/


54 posted on 10/18/2014 6:18:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: Traveler59

_”My personal opinion is that Pres. Bush took a knife in the back to keep the existance of these WMD’s a secret to prevent their use as IED’s. “

One more reason to respect President Bush...

Have you seen this?

Gruesome photos may show ISIS using chemical weapons on Kurds - what do you think?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/10/13/gruesome-photos-may-show-isis-using-chemical-weapons-on-kurds-says-report/


55 posted on 10/18/2014 6:23:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (The beast roams the earth... there's been a seismic shift in our world. Rabbi Shalom Lewis)
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To: TADSLOS

I get that. What I don’t get is if these fools study history then they know beginnings are scary and endings are pretty sad and where do these political whores go to hide from the torches and pitchforks.


56 posted on 10/18/2014 6:26:25 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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To: Cats Pajamas

All of these politico strategist pukes consider themselves untouchable right up until the moment they are strung up on lamposts.


57 posted on 10/18/2014 6:51:39 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: dware

Why were these chem and bio weapons not destroyed when we had control of them? Who are these people in Washington?


58 posted on 10/18/2014 7:34:58 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Traveler59
My personal opinion is that Pres. Bush took a knife in the back to keep the existance of these WMD's a secret to prevent their use as IED's.

I have no problem with the secrecy. What I have a problem about is that these munitions were not destroyed.

59 posted on 10/18/2014 8:41:48 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by politics)
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To: Loud Mime

I do not recall a report on VX, but I do remember sarin and mustard gas reports.


60 posted on 10/18/2014 8:44:20 AM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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