Posted on 10/29/2014 8:30:44 AM PDT by Ray76
The city’s first Ebola patient initially lied to authorities about his travels around the city following his return from treating disease victims in Africa, law-enforcement sources said.
Dr. Craig Spencer at first told officials that he isolated himself in his Harlem apartment — and didn’t admit he rode the subways, dined out and went bowling until cops looked at his MetroCard the sources said.
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Setting up a Munchausen type situation where the great Doc w/o Borders guy can save the day?
If Hickox had symptoms, then why was she released from her quarantine tent? Should Christie have ignored this?
If she did have symptoms, then should everyone who came into contact with her be quarantined even if they are asymptomatic?
With only a handful of cases:
Bellevue Hospital Center has been forced to transport its intensive care unit patients two blocks north to NYU Langone Medical Center, as the staff at the Bellevue ICU are consumed with Ebola care.What if there were a dozen cases? 20? 50?http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/10/27/bellevue-staff-consumed-with-ebola-care-transfers-icu-patients-to-nyu-langone/
We can not let the genie out of the bottle or the numbers will bury us.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3220887/posts
Ebola Docs and Nurses Care About Africans, Don’t Care About Americans
FrontPage Mag ^ | 10/29/2014 | Daniel Greenfield
Posted on 10/29/2014, 8:58:29 AM by SeekAndFind
We’re told ad nauseam that the medical personnel who go to Africa are heroes. And that’s fine. I have no objection to them doing their humanitarian thing and then writing a bestselling book about it.
But now that Madam Ebola is in town, it’s hard to miss the fact that these people might care about Africans, but they certainly don’t care about Americans.
The city’s first Ebola patient initially lied to authorities about his travels around the city following his return from treating disease victims in Africa, law-enforcement sources said.
Dr. Craig Spencer at first told officials that he isolated himself in his Harlem apartment — and didn’t admit he rode the subways, dined out and went bowling until cops looked at his MetroCard the sources said.
“He told the authorities that he self-quarantined. Detectives then reviewed his credit-card statement and MetroCard and found that he went over here, over there, up and down and all around,” a source said.
Spencer finally ’fessed up when a cop “got on the phone and had to relay questions to him through the Health Department,” a source said.
So he lied. He couldn’t be trusted to self-quarantine which means none of them can be. Meanwhile Ebola nurse Kaci Hickox is continuing her public tantrum and extinguishing whatever media manufactured sympathy the public had for her.
Defiant nurse Kaci Hickox vowed to break a mandatory quarantine order that would keep her inside her Maine home for much of the next three weeks.
Hickox said more appropriate measures would include self-monitoring by taking her temperature twice a day and getting medical attention if she began to show symptoms of Ebola.
“I would go back,” said Hickox. “This has been a bit of a nightmare for me but my work in Sierra Leone for four weeks was amazing and I feel privileged to have been able to help fight this battle. I do plan on going back in fact, it’s not just ‘will I,’ it’s more of a when.”
There’s a stench of egomania to Hickox’s language. She’s willing to compromise the public safety of Americans so she can have her fun while she’s stateside and then go back to Africa to feel “privileged”. For her being told to stay at home is a nightmare, but not the risk of creating an epidemic in this country.
Spencer has already proven that these people cannot be trusted.
There’s no reason to trust Kaci Hickox after her obnoxious and thoughtless attitude.
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Good question. Ask the muffin man.
There is a fallacy in our culture that thinks that intellectually intelligent people are actually emotionally or morally intelligent.
And this is not the case. Not even 50% of the time.
When we remember that much of the terrorism in the world has been executed by intelligent educated people, when we remember the first victims of Nazis were killed at the hands of medical doctors, when we realize that our educated elite often have dangerous self interests in their plans, we would do well to treat all people the same.
How can we be so naive as to believe that people do not lie?
You get a stamp, and I’ll get an envelope, and the question that you asked in post #13, which I responded to in post #22 with some questions of my own, we can write and send those questions to the “muffin man”!
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If I had 103-degree fever and nausea, I doubt I'd want to go bowling.
Just sayin'...........
Ebola is a high consequence pathogen. It has a low incidence in the United States.
How many times are we going to spin the wheel?
Ebola is a high consequence pathogen. It has a low incidence in the United States.
How many times are we going to spin the wheel?
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Until the leadership gets what they want.
Risk is a combination of likelihood and consequence.
In the U.S. it is very unlikely you will be infected, therefore there is a low risk of death from ebola.
Every person from a highly infected area who enters the U.S. increases the likelihood of infection, and therefore increases the risk.
Some politicians seem to think the increased likelihood can be mitigated by reducing the consequence via better treatment.
Why risk the gamble?
Automatic permanent revocation of license is the LEAST penalty I would accept
The risk of death from walking along a six inch wide steel bar laying on the ground is nill.
The risk of death from walking along a six inch wide steel bar fifty feet off the ground is greatly increased.
The likelihood of a misstep has not changed, the consequences of a misstep have. Risk was increased.
Exchanging the six inch wide bar with a three foot wide bar does not change the consequences of a misstep but it does reduce the likelihood of a misstep. Risk is decreased.
Exchanging the three foot wide bar with a six inch wide bar but installing a net beneath the bar increases the likelihood of a misstep but mitigates the consequences.
Politicians have chosen to exchange the three foot wide bar with a six inch wide bar and a net.
Nets can fail. The carrying capacity of a net can be exceeded.
Do you feel lucky?
I suppose the public policy question is, “How close to you want the cumulative distribution function to be to 1.0 on this one?”
Not to change the subject, but up until the advent of the AIDS Virus, anyone being treated for a Sexually Transmitted Disease was reported to the local Health Department so they could find any contacts that person had to eradicate the spread of the Disease.
When AIDS was exposed as a “Gay” Disease, which it originally was, the Liberals fought against the reporting requirements saying that infected People would not seek treatment because they would be stigmatized.
Political Correctness at it’s finest. Never forget, Liberals still blame President Reagan for the spread of AIDS. I actually ran into an Older Woman who still thinks so. She is obviously infected with the Libola Virus.
If Ebola exploded in the Populace, thinking like that would mean it could never be contained.
I almost forget. Here is a little song I came up with.
My EBOLA has a first name, it’s B-A-R-A-K.
My EBOLA has a second name, it’s O-B-A-M-A.
Oh I hate to hear him every day.
If you ask me why I’ll have to say.
Obama LIES every day about spreading E-B-O-L-A.
Can’t quite get the last line right, but I’m working on it.
I believe it is ~1.5 in the heavily infected areas.
Hospitals are being used as a net.
The net is fraying even with very few ebola patients (post 23, Dallas Presbyterian Hospital)
If hospitals are consumed by caring for ebola patients rather than caring for more routine illnesses there is a force multiplier effect against public health.
It would be prudent to (1) not use hospitals as a net and (2) reduce the need for a net by reducing the likelihood of infection.
Increasing risk by increasing likelihood and imprudent use of hospitals are both foolish.
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