Enterovirus May Have Caused Maryland Meningitis Outbreak

U.S. News ^ | Oct. 30, 2014 | 6:12 p.m. EDT | Kimberly Leonard

[Will88]

The disproves nothing. Kids from CA were found to be infected with Enterovirus 68.

For the third time, since you have chosen to defend the CDC on this issue.

Again, are you aware of any effort by our government's health agencies to determine why this sudden and widespread outbreak?

People here are mostly asking questions and want those government agencies responsible to actually investigate the reasons a rarely seen virus is suddenly in 46 states. What's your problem with that?

[trisham]

Thanks, obama!

[Conscience of a Conservative]

I have no problem with investigating the cause of the outbreak. If the evidence indicates that the outbreak came from Central America, then so be it. I just haven’t seen any evidence that it did, or that the particular steam it is any more prevalent there than here (for example, while there have been smaller outbreaks in previous years in the US, Europe and Asia, I’ve not seen any reports of outbreaks in Central America).

[VTenigma]

I see dead people.

[Will88]

What you haven’t seen is any objective attempt by the CDC to investigate and determine why we suddenly have an outbreak in 46 states. What we have is either a cover-up, or a deliberate policy of: See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil, from our government. As if there is any difference between the two.

You chose quite a pompous and inappropriate moniker for someone who chooses to be an apologist for a corrupt executive branch. They are beyond negligent in not investigating this outbreak thoroughly, wherever it might lead. But they have the MSM and folks like you to cover for them.

[Smokin' Joe]

Prior to the latest wave of illegal immigrant children, there had been 100 documented cases of EV D-68 in the US, from 1962 until early this year.

Cases have been noted (over 700 total) since the invasion, and are in states which received the greatest number of illegals.

Correlation isn't causation, but the increase is significant, the distribution suspect.

[Conscience of a Conservative]

Correlation isn't causation, but the increase is significant, the distribution suspect.

Agreed, it's a factor to be considered. BUT, how many documented cases of EV D-68 were there in Central America between 1962 and this year?

[PA Engineer]

Not here (though there have been smaller outbreaks), not in Central America, not anywhere.

You know better than to say that. I provided you with a link to a complete study in the Virology Journal. I will link it again. You completely brushed off the warnings contained in this study. Our government knew prior to trafficking effected children of the biological risks to the American population.

Human rhinoviruses and enteroviruses in influenza-like illness in Latin America

Read it again and take your "crisis messaging" elsewhere.

From the article:



Results
Our subjects had a median age of 3 years and a 1.2:1.0 male:female ratio. HRV was identified in 16% and HEV was identified in 3%. HRVs accounted for a higher frequency of isolates in those of younger age, in particular children < 1 years old. HRV-C accounted for 38% of all HRVs detected. Phylogenetic analysis revealed a high proportion of recombinant strains between HRV-A/HRV-C and between HEV-A/HEV-B. In addition, both EV-D68 and EV-A71 were identified.

Conclusions
In Latin America as in other regions, HRVs and HEVs account for a substantial proportion of respiratory viruses identified in young people with ILI, a finding that provides additional support for the development of pharmaceuticals and vaccines targeting these pathogens.

[PA Engineer]

Correlation isn't causation, but the increase is significant, the distribution suspect.

Check out my post 28. This information was posted yesterday. The "crisis messengers" have become very active. Thanks for all your hard work.

[Conscience of a Conservative]

Do you even read the nonsense you post? I'll just point out three issues with your post:

First, your chart: the chart reflects that 10 out of 84 patients with an enterovirus had EV-D68 (by contrast, the overwhelming majority--63 subjects--had an EV-A or EV-B strain, as I noted). That's 11%. But only 3% of the total subjects had any enterovirus strain. So, that means that only 0.3% of subjects who presented with flu-like symptoms had EV-D68.

Next, you note that the article states that "both EV-D68 and EV-A71 were identified." Again, see above - EV-D68 was identified in a miniscule portion of the study subjects, and the study population was a population that would be much more likley to have it than the general population (since the study was comprised of people who presented with flu-like illnesses).

Finally, you quoted the line "In Latin America as in other regions, HRVs and HEVs account for a substantial proportion of respiratory viruses identified in young people with ILI," as though it supports your argument. It does not. First, again, the researchers were referring to ALL enteroviruses (and rhinoviruses), not specifically EV-D68. Second, though you bolded the "In Latin America" portion, you ignored the very next words - "...as in other regions..." As in, enteroviruses are common causes of flu-like illnesses in Latin America "as in other regions."

[PA Engineer]

Do you even read the nonsense you post? I'll just point out three issues with your post:

You are liar and a messenger. The study clearly refutes every one of your claims in multiple posts. Why are you here?

The study clearly shows EV68 was in the wild in the central american population "tested."

You wrote: Not here (though there have been smaller outbreaks), not in Central America, not anywhere.

This was not just an isolated messaging claim here. Check out your posting history.

Now to quote you: Do you even read the nonsense you post?

[Conscience of a Conservative]

You wrote: Not here (though there have been smaller outbreaks), not in Central America, not anywhere.

I didn't say it was never here, or never in Central America, I said it was rarely seen here, and rarely seen in Central America. A study finding the strain in 0.3% of people who present with flu-like symptoms does not refute that.

And as for calling me a liar - what do you call it when you deliberately ignore the very text of the quote you post? You took a sentence that said that Enteroviruses and rhinovirues (not specifically EV-D68) account for a substantial portion of flu-like illnesses "[i]n Latin America as in other regions," and somehow turned it into an arugment that EV-D 68 (which is not mentioned in the sentence) is more prevalent in Central America than anywhere else.

Can you provide ANY evidence that EV-D 68 is more prevalent in Central America than here, or anywhere else?

[SweetAkitoRose]

There’s extremely strong circumstantial evidence which points to D68 coming from south of the US border:

Between 1962 and May 2014, there were less than 30 confirmed cases of D68 in the US.

Between May and October 2014, there were over 1,000 confirmed cases of D68. The number was just raised earlier this week.

D68 began to spread widely at the same time the illegal waves of kids from Central America were distributed around the country.

Sure, the disease exists elsewhere in the world, but we haven’t heard of 60,000+ Asian kids coming here this past Spring, have we?

[Conscience of a Conservative]

Between 1962 and May 2014, there were less than 30 confirmed cases of D68 in the US.

That's not true. Between 2008 and 2010 alone, there were 39 confirmed cases in the U.S. And 21 in the Phillipines, 120+ in Japan, and 24 in the Netherlands. And that's just confirmed cases - the vast majority of people with enteroviruses are never tested (enteroviruses and rhinoviruses the two primary causes of the common cold, as well as other common ailments).

Also, how many cases were there in Central America?

[Conscience of a Conservative]

From a 2012 article in the Journal of General Virology:

Human enterovirus 68 (EV-D68) is a historically rarely reported virus linked with respiratory disease. In the past 3 years, a large increase in respiratory disease associated with EV-D68 has been reported, with documented outbreaks in North America, Europe and Asia.

North America, Europe and Asia. Hmmmmmm...... notice anything missing? Something that starts with a C, and ends with "entral America," perhaps?

[potlatch]

This shows county-level data for unaccompanied children released to sponsors by the counties where the sponsors live, where 50 or more children have been released since January 1, 2014.

Maryland

MD Anne Arundel County 180
MD Baltimore City 312
MD Baltimore County 253
MD Frederick County 167
MD Howard County 115
MD Montgomery County 948
MD Prince George’s County 1,114

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/orr/unaccompanied-children-released-to-sponsors-by-county

[Smokin' Joe]

The "crisis messengers" have become very active.

The usual 'concern trolls' have brought in reinforcements...

[PA Engineer]

Yep. Saw the tag teaming going on yesterday.

[Covenantor]

Interesting list and distribution.

That’s essentially a wide swath along the Baltimore Washington D.C. Corridor heavily weighted towards Wash. That’s more than 2,000 in DC’s contiguous counties.

[Covenantor]

Forgot to add that the University of Maryland, College Park straddles Rte 1 which parallels Balt-Wash Parkway and is surrounded by large clusters of AA and Hispanic communities from which UMD draws menial labor.