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The Insiders: Democrats are limping to the finish line (exempt Landrieu throws in the towel)
Washington Post ^ | 10/31/14 | Ed Rogers

Posted on 11/03/2014 5:07:16 PM PST by Libloather

With just a few days remaining before the midterm elections, the Democrats are limping to the finish line. We are in the closing days of the 2014 campaign, and in Democratic campaigns across the country, none of the real issues are being discussed. There is no justification for the Democrats to declare there is peace and prosperity, and certainly none of them are promoting a message of hope and change. The Democrats’ campaigns have been a series of denials, comical disassociation and outright clumsy lies that will only further alienate voters from the political process.

Say what you want to about the Republicans’ lack of a message, but the Democrats – the party in power – are clearly exhausted. Starting with the White House, they have nothing affirmative to say, and the final days of campaigning appear to be more about who is to blame rather than how to turn out the vote. In some of the closest races around the country, the Democrats are desperately attempting to hold on to power.

Senator Mary Landrieu is throwing in the towel. She dealt the race and gender cards all in one desperate hand in an interview with NBC’s Chuck Todd, where she claimed that the people who elected her in the past have actually been sexist all along. And, she blames racism for the president’s unpopularity in Louisiana – not his incompetence, the stagnant economy or the president’s anti-oil and gas agenda that has such a big impact on the state. She appears to be auditioning for a job with the Obama Administration (which won’t require her to return to Louisiana anytime soon.) I wonder if she has already whispered to the White House where she would like to serve as an Ambassador.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 2014; billcassidy; democrats; elections; landrieu; limping; losers; louisiana; marylandrieu; robmaness
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To: randita
You draw the line in the primary. After that you get on the team or else you keep your mouth shut.

If a faux 'Republican' becomes the nominee, how is voting for him any better than voting for a Democrat?

I'm not talking about an 80% or even a 60% conservative nominee. I'm talking about a candidate whose record in office clearly demonstrates they're advancing the other side's agenda.

That is exactly the dilemma we faced in 2012 with Romney. You can pound your fists until your bones break, but that's why millions of conservatives stayed home.

Like it or not, at some point soon, this is going to have to be dealt with. On our side, the leadership is at war with the base of their party. Not so on the left. It's an ongoing structural problem that we've got to solve - and we ain't gonna do it by voting in more RINOs.

61 posted on 11/03/2014 6:46:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rawcatslyentist
I gladly vote for Republican candidates, when the Republicans run one.

Well said. I concur!

62 posted on 11/03/2014 6:47:47 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

>> You’re supposed to give your unreserved support to the guys who are driving the country over the cliff at a sedate 55 mph - rather than those wild and crazy fools who are flooring it over the same cliff at 85.

That’s the theory. Now let’s look at the reality.

goldstategop votes in Colorado.

Are you honestly saying that casting a vote for Beauprez over gun grabbing Hickenlooper would be a mistake? Send the wrong message and all that?

How about a vote for Cory Gardner (R) over “Mr. Abortion” Mark Udall? That would be a mistake? Send the wrong message?


63 posted on 11/03/2014 6:48:12 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Because the GOP hates its own platform.


64 posted on 11/03/2014 6:50:34 PM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: randita; Windflier; EternalVigilance; All
Windflier: Where do you personally draw the line?

Randita: You draw the line in the primary. After that you get on the team or else you keep your mouth shut.

Just like I used to do -- year after year, decade after decade, doggedly voting for Republicans who, if they won, would govern pretty much the same as the Democrat.

So randita, maybe you erase the line after the primary and would vote for someone so rotten as to lie to Democrat black voters and play the race card to get them to illegally enable him to overcome the better primary opponent (that's a recipe for putting good men in office!), but more and more of us are recognizing that almost literally the game YOU are playing with the left is "Heads they win, tails we lose."

No wonder you keep your mouth shut.

65 posted on 11/03/2014 6:51:34 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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Tillis is on FNC with Meghan Kelly. He’s a good guy.


66 posted on 11/03/2014 6:51:56 PM PST by eyedigress (e(!zOld storm chaser from the west)/?s)
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To: goldstategop

I’m voting tomorrow so it will be easier for President Cruz to have a majority in 2016.


67 posted on 11/03/2014 6:52:38 PM PST by erod
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To: Nervous Tick

Its simple. How far under the traditional 80%, which means accepting 1 in 5 liberal actions, is one willing to go before he becomes the thing he claims he hates?

2 in 5? 3? How far? Because actions have consequences when you liberalize your party.


68 posted on 11/03/2014 6:52:58 PM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Windflier
When a 'Republican' has proven beyond a shadow of doubt that he is an abject traitor to everything the party supposedly stands for, at what point do you withhold your vote from him/her?

In the primaries.

69 posted on 11/03/2014 6:53:13 PM PST by Ditto
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To: Ditto

In the primaries is exactly right.


70 posted on 11/03/2014 6:55:57 PM PST by rlbedfor
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To: Libloather
Among Dims let there be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Let them utter the "I" word to redeem themselves.

71 posted on 11/03/2014 6:56:16 PM PST by stboz
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To: Ditto

“in Democratic campaigns across the country, none of the real issues are being discussed.”

And they are in Republican campaigns???? That gang of squids has done everything but apologize that we have to have an election.


72 posted on 11/03/2014 6:56:32 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Windflier

” I understand the argument that a flip-flopping, unreliable faux Republican is better by far than a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist, but again — where do you draw the line on giving your support to politicians who simply wear your team jersey, “

Unfortunately, vote them in to win the majority, then fight for Conservatives to replace them. Better than having dems in office!


73 posted on 11/03/2014 6:57:06 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: goldstategop

I think we ALL know the GOPe SUCK however 2 more years of Harry
Reid is far worse PLEASE VOTE!!!!!!!


74 posted on 11/03/2014 6:58:23 PM PST by Kit cat (OBummer must go)
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To: Nervous Tick
Are you honestly saying that casting a vote for Beauprez over gun grabbing Hickenlooper would be a mistake? Send the wrong message and all that?

Not at all.

For myself, I take the time to study each candidate's record and positions before casting judgement on them. If a candidate agrees with me more than 60% of the time, and he's the Republican nominee, he's probably going to get my vote.

If his record and positions show him to be no better than his Democrat opponent, then I really don't have a choice to vote FOR.

I won't give my vote to a liberal with an R velcroed to his sleeve, just to defeat his liberal buddy with a D tattooed to his forehead.

In the cases you mentioned, there's no doubt I'd vote R.

The point I'm making is that our party is observably sliding to the left. I know that all of us support true conservatives in every primary, where we can, but when those conservatives fail to capture the nomination, all too often the liberal Repuke is given a free pass on this forum.

What I'm saying is that we have got to figure out some way to stop rewarding the GOP-e for running these miscreants. Voting for them only ensures that we get more of them to vote for in the future.

Ya gotta stop it somewhere.

75 posted on 11/03/2014 6:58:38 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Kozy; goldstategop
But you are voting/ You are voting for the Democrat by staying away.

A mathematical and material fallacy.

Declining to participate is just that, affecting the outcome exactly ZILCH. As I will do in California's governor race between two leftists, one a Republican and the other a Democrat. Those are the only two options on my ballot, and I am opposed to what both offer. Your calculation of it as a vote FOR the Democrat is pathetic seeing as how, as it was with Romney in 2012, a vote for the Republican is a vote for validating the Democrat agenda.

The only way to vote for a leftist is to cast your ballot for one. All other ways are purely imaginary.

76 posted on 11/03/2014 6:59:51 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: Norm Lenhart

You’re back to fuzzy theory again.

I want to talk tomorrow’s reality. Let’s try again.

Assume you vote in Colorado, as does goldstategop.

For governor (close race). (R) Beauprez? or (D) Hickenlooper? Or none of the above? In his previous term, Hickenlooper advanced a horrid ‘rat agenda, and signed into law major gun control. Are you going to help him continue abusing Coloradans? Or help get rid of him?

For senator (also a close race, your vote counts): Mark Udall, a.k.a. “Mark Uterus” so he can continue to vote for abortions into the fifth trimester of life? Or help end the innocent bloodshed by voting for Cory Gardner (R)?

This is where the rubber meets the road. What are you going to do in THESE ACTUAL RACES? And why? How will not voting advance the conservative cause in THESE RACES?


77 posted on 11/03/2014 7:00:43 PM PST by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed is his demon)
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To: Finny

For a site supposedly filled with supposedly intelligent thinking people, there are a bunch that need remedial civics badly.


78 posted on 11/03/2014 7:01:31 PM PST by Norm Lenhart ("Refusing to vote against unprincipled people made Obama President. " - agere_contra)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
Unfortunately, vote them in to win the majority, then fight for Conservatives to replace them. Better than having dems in office!

The problem with that, is that it doesn't work in the real world.

In the real world, you get what you vote for. Vote RINO, and the GOP will give you more RINOs to vote for.

In life, you get more of what you reward. You get less of what you punish.

'Tis a conundrum, I know.

79 posted on 11/03/2014 7:01:58 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

The millions of conservatives who stayed at home in 2012 gave us four more years of “slouching toward Gomorrah”. They’re idiots, IMO.


80 posted on 11/03/2014 7:02:40 PM PST by randita ("Is a nation without borders a nation?"...Noonan)
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