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Obama: Regulate broadband Internet like a utility so it 'works for everyone'
c/net ^ | November 10, 2014 | Don Reisinger

Posted on 11/10/2014 11:38:48 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota

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Level 3 Communications, Inc. (NASDAQ: LVLT) today [Nov 29, 2010] issued the following statement, which can be attributed to Thomas Stortz, Chief Legal Officer of Level 3:

“On November 19, 2010, Comcast informed Level 3 that, for the first time, it will demand a recurring fee from Level 3 to transmit Internet online movies and other content to Comcast’s customers who request such content. By taking this action, Comcast is effectively putting up a toll booth at the borders of its broadband Internet access network, enabling it to unilaterally decide how much to charge for content which competes with its own cable TV and Xfinity delivered content. This action by Comcast threatens the open Internet and is a clear abuse of the dominant control that Comcast exerts in broadband access markets as the nation’s largest cable provider.

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20101129006456/en/Level-3-Communications-Issues-Statement-Comcast%E2%80%99s-Actions#.VGE39aAaDl8


121 posted on 11/10/2014 2:12:44 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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To: Slyfox

Loser Proposal from the Loser President......I think its a Loser for the Free Market and the American People.

I can see Obama in my rear view mirror, of my U-Haul rented by a DC Democrat, who lost last week.


122 posted on 11/10/2014 2:17:55 PM PST by 4Speed
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To: Ray76
"They don’t pay their provider?"

They pay for bits delivered only. Which works great when your product is text and static images.

But a Backbone provider must provision sufficient bandwidth to keep video from being choppy or voice from cutting out...if the service is to be commercially viable.

That means their inter-switch trunks (the DWDM...multiple gigabit) cannot be loaded over about 70% utilization.

The backbone provider is in the ENDLESS bandwidth upgrade.

What they propose is technology upgrades that will allow them to charge providers who need the advanced services a higher rate for delivering those bits in a fashion that won't crowd out other bits (text, static images) and allow the backbone provider to use up to 100% of their bandwidth.

123 posted on 11/10/2014 2:27:37 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Translation:

works for everyone = free for po’ folk


124 posted on 11/10/2014 2:29:25 PM PST by Fresh Wind (2014: The FUBO Election)
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To: Ray76
"Level 3 Communications, Inc"

This is an argument for an anti-trust suit against Comcast, not an argument FOR NN.

L3 IS a backbone provider and Comcast is an ACCESS provider that is restricting content because it competes with their core business.

125 posted on 11/10/2014 2:31:10 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Straight Vermonter
they should not be able to use that as a way to control content.

They don't want to control content, just bandwidth. I don't want to lose my service which happens fairly regularly in my rural area, just because some shmuck wants to use a limited resource to stream video. If you want to pay more to give me better pipes so that doesn't happen, then great, I have news for you.

You already pay more to give me better pipes, but the money is wasted. That is because it is a government program doomed to failure as usual. Now, tell me how exactly will there be enough bandwidth for every drivelous streaming video just because the government says it should be so?

126 posted on 11/10/2014 2:33:07 PM PST by palmer (Minnesota Is Monitoring 48 for Ebola, Already 12 Go Missing)
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To: Mariner
What terrible thing do you fear from them that you could not circumvent as a consumer?

There is nothing I can do as a consumer. Comcast has a complete monopoly. My only option is to pay or go without.

127 posted on 11/10/2014 2:33:12 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: roamer_1
There is Satellite and DSL

Neither of which is relevant because they are not able to deliver broadband.

128 posted on 11/10/2014 2:34:49 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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"Obama:
Regulate broadband Internet like a utility
so it 'works for everyone'"


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129 posted on 11/10/2014 2:35:13 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Straight Vermonter
There is nothing I can do as a consumer. Comcast has a complete monopoly. My only option is to pay or go without.

What exactly does Comcast censor that you need?

130 posted on 11/10/2014 2:35:33 PM PST by palmer (Minnesota Is Monitoring 48 for Ebola, Already 12 Go Missing)
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To: palmer
They don't want to control content, just bandwidth.

Untrue. They want to be able to throttle sites that do not pay them.

131 posted on 11/10/2014 2:36:01 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Neither of which is relevant because they are not able to deliver broadband.

Bullshit. Satellite, DSL, and cellular all deliver broadband. What you want is free unlimited streaming video.

132 posted on 11/10/2014 2:36:43 PM PST by palmer (Minnesota Is Monitoring 48 for Ebola, Already 12 Go Missing)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Untrue. They want to be able to throttle sites that do not pay them.

More bullshit. They only want to throttle streaming video because that lets them build a smaller cheaper network.

133 posted on 11/10/2014 2:41:32 PM PST by palmer (Minnesota Is Monitoring 48 for Ebola, Already 12 Go Missing)
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To: palmer
What exactly does Comcast censor that you need?

It's not a matter of censorship. I'm not saying they are going to be selecting which political/religious/other site anyone can go to.

134 posted on 11/10/2014 2:41:37 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Well, Comcast is ALREADY a regulated utility, as are all other ACCESS PROVIDERS.

If they have cable in the ground...whether fiber or copper or both, they are regulated.

100% of the time.

And they are not going to get away with blocking content. And, if their service sucks they will lose their franchise.

135 posted on 11/10/2014 2:42:09 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: palmer
How about we have a discussion without all the profanity?

Satellite, DSL, and cellular all deliver broadband. What you want is free unlimited streaming video.

I don't want free anything. I pay for my internet the same as everyone else. As for DSL and satellite being broadband I guess DSL premium is technically above the line but standard DSL and even "premium" satellite are far below.


136 posted on 11/10/2014 2:49:34 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter
It's not a matter of censorship. I'm not saying they are going to be selecting which political/religious/other site anyone can go to.

Good, at least we agree on that.

137 posted on 11/10/2014 2:51:01 PM PST by palmer (Minnesota Is Monitoring 48 for Ebola, Already 12 Go Missing)
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To: Straight Vermonter

That table is outdated. Hughesnet goes to 15 Mb


138 posted on 11/10/2014 2:52:56 PM PST by palmer (Minnesota Is Monitoring 48 for Ebola, Already 12 Go Missing)
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To: Mariner

Most streamed content, for example Netflix, is really incremental download. There can be and is plenty of buffering and caching. It is not as time-critical as live content such as a two-way video or telephone.

Like every company and individual Netflix pays their provider for access. The problem is that Comcast charged Netflix even though Netflix was not connected to Comcast. I submit that Comcast was not experiencing a technology problem since immediately upon Netflix coughing up cash the “problem” went away.

It’s not Netflix who is consuming Comcast’s bandwidth, it is Comcast’s customers.

Suppose another website becomes very popular. Let’s say FR starts a video hosting service that eclipses youtube. Let’s further suppose that this service uses an ISP other than Comcast. Should Comcast charge FR a fee because Comcast customers want to access the FR website?

The demand for bandwidth will not decrease. ISP’s seeking to have the government impose regulation are only attempting to cement their position rather than engage in free market competition.


139 posted on 11/10/2014 2:54:31 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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GoDaddy, Rackspace, etc generate large amounts of traffic. Should Comcast charge those companies because Comcast customers want to access the sites they host.


140 posted on 11/10/2014 3:04:43 PM PST by Ray76 (We must destroy the Uniparty or be destroyed by them.)
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