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U.S. to Focus on Equity in Assigning of Teachers
New York Times ^ | November 10, 2014 | MOTOKO RICH

Posted on 11/11/2014 5:37:40 AM PST by reaganaut1

The Obama administration is directing states to show how they will ensure that all students have equal access to high-quality teachers, with a sharp focus on schools with a high proportion of the poor and racial minorities.

In a letter to state superintendents released Monday, Deborah S. Delisle, an assistant secretary at the Department of Education, said states must develop plans by next June that make sure that public schools comply with existing federal law requiring that “poor and minority children are not taught at higher rates than other children by inexperienced, unqualified or out-of-field teachers.”

States last submitted plans to address such inequities in 2006, but data shows that large disparities persist.

“It is important to remind our states that one step in front of the other is the way to begin to deliver for all our students,” said Catherine Lhamon, assistant secretary for civil rights, in a conference call with reporters. “We are all dismayed by the lack of compliance and lack of satisfaction and delivery on this point.”

The Education Department will send each state data collected by the department’s Office for Civil Rights showing rates of teacher experience, certification, absenteeism and salary by school as well as student access to taxpayer-funded preschool and advanced courses in math and science.

The administration is also urging states to look at teacher evaluations to determine whether those who receive lower ratings are disproportionately assigned to schools with high proportions of racial minorities and students in poverty.

But the only requirement of states is that they ensure that teachers are equitably distributed based on experience and credentials.

Education advocates said such measures could limit improvements in the quality of instruction in struggling schools.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: commoncore; doe; education; obama; publicschools
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To: driftless2

Yes, I think about one company of Marines per each Public School with orders to maintain Order at any cost up to and including DEAD would be just about the right amount of FORCE it would take to make these feral black males sit down, STFU, and behave!

Until that day comes, no highly qualified teacher is going to risk his/her life to try and teach these chimps how to add 2 + 2.


41 posted on 11/11/2014 6:26:30 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: reaganaut1

This is going to run head long into the teachers union. If this persists, the WH may not have teacher union support in 2016


42 posted on 11/11/2014 6:33:36 AM PST by Starwolf
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To: reaganaut1

yeah,
you wouldn’t want the best qualified now would you?
Naaahhh, gots to have quotas like our quota boy pres.


43 posted on 11/11/2014 6:34:47 AM PST by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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To: reaganaut1

What the GOP majority congress should do is get the Fed the ‘H’ out of education as it’s not their Constitutional business to be directing the States on anything much less making the education of our children a political matter, which is precisely what they are doing.

Get rid of the Department of Education along with a whole bunch of other departments under the Executive Branch control, and let America work as intended.


44 posted on 11/11/2014 6:56:59 AM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: reaganaut1
Since 80% of everything you learn comes from home, along with your behavior, doesn't it make more sense to remove the kids from homes performing badly and place them in high performing homes where the parents do a good job teaching their children, and then take the kids from those high performing homes and place them in the poor performing homes?

Leveling the playing fields..............

45 posted on 11/11/2014 6:57:25 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: reaganaut1

This bodes well for poor Catholic schools, as it will increase the differential in pay between what the public school systems will be required to pay and what the Catholic schools will need to offer for the best teachers.

My sons’ poor Catholic high school has many great teachers who could score an extra $10K - $30K teaching in the local public schools.

But it’s only money.


46 posted on 11/11/2014 7:05:52 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: reaganaut1

It is really quite amusing to see Obama contradict himself in the same paragraph. lol

He wants more ‘equality’ but supposed minorities are more equal than others.

I think the reality is there are good schools even in minority areas their called character and private schools and the reason their good is because unlike the Democrat run public schools in those same areas theses schools fire bad teachers and practice discipline. People have to want to work hard and go to school there.

Without that investment or risk of loss the Democrats engineered out of their locally controlled public school system no endeavor can be successful.

Yes Good Teachers matter, but you wont make, keep, or retain them without dispelling intensives.


47 posted on 11/11/2014 7:06:28 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: rockinqsranch

I agree but having worked with a State department of education i got to point out that the key to that goal is money.

The Federal and indeed in many cases the State Department of educations only control is the various Federal Grants and spending programs like title 1 and “carl d perkins” conditioning and/or giving out billions of federal tax dollars . their power and influence would be negnable, and thus the department would be abolish-able.

There are thus 2 ways to kill the Department of education.
1: abolish all federal funding.
2: Abolish all strings for federal funding either thou clear lack of enforcement or strait apportionment.

I suspect eyther one could lead to the other in short enough time.

The good news is Given Obama’s newly demonstrated excusive powers this might be doable with the next president and congress if the president simply promises to dumb down DOEs enforcement of grant applications to the effect that states at least get what they payed in.

This could be done as part of a populous political campaign against more generalized federal strings, following into other campaigns designed to shift the entirety of the process out of Washington all together.

Once the Grants are entirely funded and controlled by State Governments its simply a matter of knocking them off one by one.


48 posted on 11/11/2014 7:22:13 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: reaganaut1
“poor and minority children are not taught at higher rates than other children by inexperienced, unqualified or out-of-field teachers.”

When highly qualified teacher is defined as a person holding a degree in the exact subject being taught from an accredited education program, perhaps the definition of qualified teacher should be examined.

49 posted on 11/11/2014 7:22:48 AM PST by fso301
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To: Cen-Tejas

I think probably half the students want to learn but are held back by the feral other half who have no interest in learning anything or doing anything except making trouble. It would be for the best if we could cull the useless members and keep them permanently separated from the rest.


50 posted on 11/11/2014 7:25:57 AM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: paint_your_wagon
Educrats have their own formal definition for terms like ‘excellence’ and ‘quality’. Their definitions don’t necessarily mean what you might think.

Ah, great point. Very true.
51 posted on 11/11/2014 7:28:33 AM PST by caligatrux (Rage, rage against the dying of the light.)
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To: cuban leaf
Schools are local.

Not for much longer. To Liberals, this is the big prize, complete Federal control over Education, it's been the goal since Carter created the Department of Education.

52 posted on 11/11/2014 7:31:32 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: goodnesswins

““EQUAL ACCESS”... those two words are the DEMS mantra...means EVERY ONE gets the same crappie service”

lol in this case its even worse as they define certain schools and racily defined groups as “more equal than others”

The sad part is the only thing that really defines theses groups and areas is their politics. They have poor teachers not because teachers prefer to live and work else where but because there is nothing to lose from being a bad teacher under their Public systems. Just as their students and families have nothing invested in the schools with which to drive them to make the most.

This is all a direct result of their long held political dispositions against such accountability and personal financial or otherwise investment.

In today’s world a well motivated and personally invested child doesn’t need a school to become highly educated. An unmotivated and uninvested child wouldn’t learn even with the best of schools and teachers.


53 posted on 11/11/2014 7:40:18 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: driftless2

I sent my son to the Marine Academy in Harlingen, Texas for this very same reason (93, 94, 95).

It is run by retired marines IN UNIFORM.

I always was on the side of the administration in letter wars with meddlesome parents trying to force the Marines to go easy on their little boys!

Walk down the halls of a classroom bldg and you can hear a pen drop, literally! There is never an unruly class. Kids are sitting up paying attention and learning! Top teachers teach there. Some with PHD’s!

Is very expensive today though. Was about 15k per year on average back then.

It’s a crime this kind of education is not available to the kids u speak of who want to learn!


54 posted on 11/11/2014 7:45:24 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: dfwgator

But this is becoming yet another “bridge too far” for liberals. They may end up federally controlling all schools, but the only students will be ferel yutes in ghettos.


55 posted on 11/11/2014 7:46:43 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: driftless2

“I think probably half the students want to learn but are held back by the feral other half who have no interest in learning anything or doing anything except making trouble. It would be for the best if we could cull the useless members and keep them permanently separated from the rest.”

That would require a willingness to hold back the troublemakers and thus expose them to social sigma. that is yet anther form of accountability that Leftist run schools in leftist dominated school districts have been campaigning against for decades. Not just in students but the teachers as well.

There is a very good reason Minority and other leftist dominated school districts have a great many bad teachers, the same reason they have so many bad students. They have no accountability and their probably dealing with a population that has more trouble makers than normal simply because if that is an inherited trait then the parents also disposed towards trouble probably are poor for the same reason.

They need displin and insentives, They need to be held back and the student must fear that social sigman to drive them forward and invest their time in their studies. That is in fact one of the most powerful ways to motivated children who often care about little more than how their friends see them.


56 posted on 11/11/2014 7:49:11 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Yup


57 posted on 11/11/2014 7:52:17 AM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods)
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To: cuban leaf

“But this is becoming yet another “bridge too far” for liberals. They may end up federally controlling all schools, but the only students will be ferel yutes in ghettos.”

Iient it amusing how the leftist solution to their own problems is surrendering control to a sperate demograpicly less liberal athoirty in Federal or State Goverment?

There is of course the usual excuses of wanting more external resources dumped upon them and their schools, who doesn’t want that? But really every-time they surrender policy making authority to Washington its because their own policies are not working.

Conservities need to aggressively get into the business of local schooling. Particular in liberal areas we need to show theses people that they have all the resources they could ever need they just need, far more than their parents or anyone’s grandparents, they just the will to uses them.

They need dispelling and motivation. They need to hold back students who fail and encourage social sigman against those who don’t even try.
Their teachers suffer from the same lack of consequence in that they don’t get fired for having failing classes and being generally of poor quality.

Theses schools need to be going thou teachers until they find good ones whom they should promote with better pay while firing the bad ones. Let them try again somewhere else with more motivation and innovation elsewhere.


58 posted on 11/11/2014 8:02:51 AM PST by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

Need to start admitting that the “world needs ditchdiggers too” and stop trying to force kids to go to school who obviously don’t want to.


59 posted on 11/11/2014 8:05:57 AM PST by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: dfwgator

Its up to his parents but i don’t believe a child under the age of 18 is wise enough to make a rational choice about his future. It may be unwise to close his opitions.

Still your right as a matter of policy a child who gets held back too many times might be suggested to drop out to look at alternatives be it a different kind of school or ditch digging.
In either event i feel the state and local government owes the child a refund on his remaining amount schooling that he will be paying taxes for for the rest of his life. It would of course be extremely unwise to give this to them before 18 unless its in the form of a voucher for an alternative education institution.


60 posted on 11/11/2014 8:26:22 AM PST by Monorprise
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