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2nd Grade Material Says: "The Government Gives Us Rights"
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Posted on 11/17/2014 3:26:37 AM PST by Enlightened1

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To: goldstategop
I guess they’re not teaching the American understanding of the political nature of society in our public school civics classes anymore. This is a dangerous trend.

The trend from the 1960's. The NEA bought (from 4H), printed and distributed "The American Citizens Handbook" from 1941 to 1969 (rumor is remaining 10,000 or so copies were buried in a NY landfill). It was chock full of real American history, writings, and biblical quotations. No govunion teacher would dare display it today.

http://www.shipofstate.com/books/AmericanCitizensHandbook/AmericanCitizensHandbook.htm

41 posted on 11/17/2014 8:35:42 AM PST by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: Enlightened1

But it’s actually “alien-able” meaning that you cannot give away the rights or have them taken away. When I studied property law, and not often since, we learned about restraints on alienation, meaning restrictions on how one could convey land that one owned (as in not allowing property to be sold to minorities, for example).

So the idea is that your rights cannot be taken or lost, even if you do something stupid earlier.


42 posted on 11/17/2014 8:49:20 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

Oops, “in-alien-able”


43 posted on 11/17/2014 8:51:34 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: MosesKnows
MosesKnows said: Except for the possibility that the right of due process is a "granted" right the list of rights granted by the Constitution remains at ZERO."

The right to "due process" is simply the recognition that there is no obligation to consent to a government without assurance that the government will properly constrain itself.

Trial by a jury of one's peers is a right to be free from arbitrary judgements by the government.

If one is denied trial by jury, then the unalienable right to "due process" dictates that one need no longer consent to being governed because the agreement has been violated.

The government is only now beginning to reverse almost one hundred years of violating due process with respect to the Second Amendment. The Supreme Court, in its recent Heller and McDonald decisions, is only now finally providing the due process which was violated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the subsequent erroneous judicial decisions.

Without this "due process", every gun owner is fully justified in withdrawing consent to be governed by a government which is violating the Bill of Rights.

44 posted on 11/17/2014 10:01:24 AM PST by William Tell
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To: golux

It’s still wrong too.

Since when does ‘privilege’ and ‘right’ mean the same thing?


45 posted on 11/17/2014 10:10:05 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

You cannot legislate in the name of God. We unfortunately do live in a world without recognition of God’s sovereignty. No one will accept “inalienable because of God” without then questioning all the evil and asking why God allows that to happen.

Unfortunately, in a fallen world, we do turn to authority to _guarantee_ our inherent rights. Perhaps the correct question is how did ‘guarantee’ become ‘grant’? We’ve come a long way from the Magna Carta, yet that was a case of people demanding that monarchs, who had the authority of God at that time, recognize the rights inherent to all humanity.


46 posted on 11/17/2014 11:23:17 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: bamahead; traviskicks; 2ndDivisionVet

Libertarian ping


47 posted on 11/17/2014 5:40:12 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: Enlightened1

commie core propaganda


48 posted on 11/17/2014 5:41:25 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: reformedliberal
"You cannot legislate in the name of God. We unfortunately do live in a world without recognition of God’s sovereignty. No one will accept “inalienable because of God” without then questioning all the evil and asking why God allows that to happen."

First of all, no one has said anything about legislating (making laws) in the name of God. Our government makes laws in the name of the United States of America. We would hope and pray that these legislators do this with God's guidance and following God's moral standards. America was founded on a belief in and trust in God as our sovereign. We recognized that our basic freedom and rights were given to us by God and no one including our elected government could take them away.

You said, "No one will accept “inalienable because of God, without questioning all the evil and asking why God allows that to happen.” WRONG. Only the Godless people question in that way. The Bible tells us that God did not create the world in the same state that it is now. God gives all of us the free will to choose between good or evil, and many choose to follow the ways of evil, we may also cause suffering to ourselves as the natural consequence of sinfulness and unwise actions. God may use physical evil (examples: Illness, pain, earthquakes, floods) for a higher purpose: to test us and prepare us for glory (1 Peter 1:6-7, 5:10, 2 Corinthians 12:7-9), or to make us more compassionate (2 Corinthians 1:3-6). The suffering we endure now will be more than compensated by the glory of eternal life (2 Corinthians 4:16-18, Philippians 1:21-23). Physical evil is one means God uses to accomplish His work on earth (John 9:1-3). It is very difficult to see any value in pain, suffering, loss of a loved one, disability, etc. However, these temporary evils are insignificant on the time scale of eternity, and they may just be a testing and preparation for better things to come. "For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9)

They can question all they want, but it does not change the truth that the only authority we can look to when we consider “inalienability" is God. God does not break His promises ..... but Kings and governments do lie and break promises.

Yes, we have come a long way from Magna Carta, but it was a beginning and an inspiration.

49 posted on 11/18/2014 5:23:18 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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