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Senate Defeats Bill on Keystone XL Pipeline in Narrow Vote
New York Times ^ | 11/18/2014 | By ASHLEY PARKER and CORAL DAVENPORT

Posted on 11/18/2014 7:20:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

The vote was also a reflection of how a once-obscure pipeline blew up into an expensive national political battle between environmentalists and the oil industry.

More Gruberisms, this is a battle between Marxists and the oil industry.

Pray America is waking


21 posted on 11/18/2014 7:46:03 PM PST by bray (Palin/Perry)
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To: SeekAndFind

The senate Obamabots give Mary Landrieu a good rogering to save Obama the embarrassment of vetoing the Keystone bill.


22 posted on 11/18/2014 7:46:09 PM PST by Iron Munro (DHS has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: SeekAndFind

This isn’t horseshoes. Only tells us that after the new Senate is in...chances are much better.


23 posted on 11/18/2014 7:47:04 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

walsh is a lameduck


24 posted on 11/18/2014 7:49:43 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

I wonder if the outcome of Senate votes like this one would have been different if state lawmakers hadn’t given up their voices in Congress by foolishly ratifying the ill-conceived 17th Amendment.


25 posted on 11/18/2014 7:54:52 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Sacajaweau

RE: This isn’t horseshoes. Only tells us that after the new Senate is in...chances are much better.

It will pass the Senate, but when Obama vetoes it, they don’t have the votes to override, which in effect means no Keystone Pipeline.


26 posted on 11/18/2014 7:55:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: skimbell
Only four votes gained over how they voted vs the next Senate:

Arkansas: Pryor (D) to Cotton (R); no vote change North Carolina: Hagan (D) to Tillis (R); no vote change Alaska: Begich (D) to Sullivan (R); no vote change Montana: Retiring D (Walsh) to Daines (R); no vote change Louisiana: Landrieu (D) or Cassidy (R); no vote change

Colorado: Udall (D) to Gardner (r); +1 vote change Iowa: Retiring D (Harkin) to Ernst (R); +1 vote change South Dakota: Retiring D (Johnson) to Rounds (R); +1 vote change West Virginia: Retiring D (Rockefeller) to Capito (R); +1 vote change

27 posted on 11/18/2014 7:56:18 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: Tupelo

60 is still 7 short of a veto override. I have four extra votes, assuming everyone else votes as they did today, leaving them at 63. Need four more to override.


28 posted on 11/18/2014 7:59:58 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe Walsh (D-MT) is retiring and has been replaced with Daines (R-MT).


29 posted on 11/18/2014 8:04:03 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: SeekAndFind

Bring it BACK AGAIN!

It will pass

TT


30 posted on 11/18/2014 8:08:18 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: CatOwner

The Gruber Backlash is going to have a ripple effect that will change this dynamic.

TT


31 posted on 11/18/2014 8:11:51 PM PST by TexasTransplant (Idiocracy used to just be a Movie... Live every day as your last...one day you will be right)
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To: TexasTransplant

RE: Bring it BACK AGAIN!

It will pass

TT

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It’s not the passing that concerns me, it’s what happens after it passes. Obama will veto it.

I don’t think we have the votes to override his veto.


32 posted on 11/18/2014 8:15:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This was all about protecting Obama from having to make a veto.


33 posted on 11/18/2014 8:15:08 PM PST by llevrok (I fear the US government more than I do al Qaeda)
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To: llevrok

RE: This was all about protecting Obama from having to make a veto.

He will have to make that veto next year. And I am afraid his veto will succeed. There’s not enough votes to override it.


34 posted on 11/18/2014 8:17:21 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

sick obstructionists


35 posted on 11/18/2014 8:30:36 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: nascarnation

Over the next year, stock up on popcorn because watching Hillary take her to the woodshed and split the left is gonna be spectacular.


36 posted on 11/18/2014 8:37:58 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Change a comma and send it again. Keep changing commas and keep sending it every time it’s voted down and vetoed for 2 years.

Do not consider a single piece of business until Obama signs the bill. Not one. Shut the govt down, defund govt entirely, do whatever. But nothing moves until it passes. THAT is how you deal with this.


37 posted on 11/18/2014 8:43:44 PM PST by Norm Lenhart (Feet to the fire folks. YOU PROMISED!)
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To: nascarnation; dowcaet; doug from upland

That got me thinking. Maybe we could come up with a catchy spoof of the the nursery rhyme “Lizzie Borden” for “Lizzie Warren.”


38 posted on 11/18/2014 8:45:58 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

anyone of them, or all of them, will say “I voted for it before I voted against it” there where more no votes on the rat side, but they only needed 1 to kill it allowing the rest of the rats to look like they supported the pipeline.

Trust me, when the rubber hits the road, the rats vote the way they are needed.


39 posted on 11/18/2014 9:53:53 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Norm Lenhart

toss in a full repeal of Zerocare and keep sending them back.. THAT is how you do it.

Might as well toss in a budget while you are at it ;)


40 posted on 11/18/2014 9:56:13 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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