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NSA Director: China can damage US power grid
Fox News ^ | November 20, 2014

Posted on 11/20/2014 9:41:19 AM PST by McGruff

The head of the NSA issued a blunt warning Thursday to lawmakers: China can shut down the United States.

The grim forecast came from Admiral Michael Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency and commander of the U.S .Cyber Command

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; emp; michaelrogers; nsa; powergrid; uscybercommand
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To: Pollster1

That reminds me, I was reading some articles on getting kits to change generators to combo of ethanol fuel, and instructions on how to make it. I think I also read that people made their own fuel during the shortages of depression/WWII era.

We’ll stick with wood for long term heat and cooking though.


41 posted on 11/20/2014 3:47:21 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Many years ago, I used to do the laundry by hand. I had a big water bath canner that I used on the stove and the kitchen sink for rinsing.

Then I hung everything outdoors to dry. Freshest smelling laundry we ever have had. LOL

Hard on the hands though, but I had strong wrists and fingers from all the hand wringing - no pun intended.


42 posted on 11/20/2014 3:52:46 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

About all you really need in your situation for long term survival, is food storage.

You seem to have enough acreage and the location that you can deal somewhat easily with the issues that we city dwellers face, especially in desert areas.


43 posted on 11/20/2014 3:53:25 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the ping.


44 posted on 11/20/2014 3:55:01 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: ansel12

I think so too. We have been gradually stockpiling various types of foods. We have some cases of the number 10 size cans that are good for at least 20 years, and plenty of regular canned, frozen, or dehydrated stuff, first aid, etc.

And of course we have planted fruit, nut trees, and berry bushes as well as a regular garden, which we could expand and store even more than we do now.

The rural area has it’s advantages - we have a creek, well, swimming pool holding 4000 gallons and a septic tank. The well can be run on generator(it’s a pain to hook up) or use a narrow bucket.

When the electricity goes off, we immediately draw water from the lines by collecting it in gallon jugs or empty soda bottles.

We also keep about 20 gallons of bottled water on hand, but have never had to use it. The lines always give us enough water to get through so far - but we are prepared for longer term pretty well, I think.

We do a little more every chance we get.


45 posted on 11/20/2014 4:09:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
"We do a little more every chance we get."

Good. I'm pretty much set for just about any 'troubles' and now I go to yard sales every Friday and increase/improve my situation slowly on the cheap. I have numerous items in 5/6 fold ( Coleman stoves/lanterns and,etc) for barter or to help friends in need. And, I got them all real cheap.

46 posted on 11/20/2014 6:11:05 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

That’s good. We don’t get much good stuff other than clothes from yard sales around here.


47 posted on 11/20/2014 6:24:31 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
I got all my canning supplies (except lids) from yard sales. I have over a thousand jars....I'll use them if/when I have to.

At least, I have them stashed away if needed.

48 posted on 11/20/2014 6:35:25 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: _Jim

ping


49 posted on 11/20/2014 6:44:14 PM PST by null and void (The better I know obama, the less I fear a president Biden.)
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To: Pollster1

I think evidence that you have power lights at night will draw far more attention than the panels themselves.

Depends what you are prepping for short term gas (Natual or Propane) powered generator. Long term Solar, but you can’t just live anywhere it has to be somewhere with lots and lots of sunshine.

You need to be a power miser. What can you get your absoute min on power need?

Me a small fan, battery changer, a few dc ligths for 4-6 hours a night. I am look at building something portable. That I can roll out during the day and roll back in at night.


50 posted on 11/20/2014 7:04:15 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam

Don’t get many of those either. I do have about 100 jars full of various meats and veggies that I canned, a supply of around 100 new bands and lids purchased on sale, and about 36 spare jars that I’ll be using to can some meats when there is a good sale.

Just canned 20 lbs of Turkey last week which was on sale for 75 cents per lb. Got two 20 pounders to go. This is the time of year I like to can - extra heat when it’s needed.LOl

These jars of meat are great for whipping up a really quick meal. One dish casserole or soup etc. Can be eaten straight out of the jar and unheated too.


51 posted on 11/20/2014 7:08:56 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Le//t Freedom Ring.)
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To: McGruff; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
PING!
52 posted on 11/20/2014 7:42:24 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The mods stole my tagline.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

http://www.amazon.com/Laundry-Alternative-Wonderwash-Portable-Compact/dp/B002C8HR9A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416542850&sr=8-2&keywords=hand+washing+machine

The Laundry Alternative Wonderwash Portable Compact Mini Washing Machine (no electricity needed)

What do you think - would this be easier?


53 posted on 11/20/2014 8:08:41 PM PST by GOPJ ('Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State' Vladimir Lenin1945 pamphlet)
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To: varyouga

“Putting together a battery bank from marine batteries is not complicated and reasonably priced. I would recommend an outdoor enclosure and completely independent wiring from your home (basically outdoor extension cords that you’d plug into the batteries only when needed).”

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With fairly heavy usage how long would batteries last? Two, three years?

Here’s a portable solar system that would keep a small fridge working and maybe run a ‘nuwave’ hotplate... Everyone’s going to need redundant systems because when something breaks we won’t be able to replace it.

What do you think?

http://www.amazon.com/Goal-Zero-23000-Solar-Generator/dp/B00D5RVMAM/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1416543194&sr=8-7&keywords=goal+zero


54 posted on 11/20/2014 8:16:22 PM PST by GOPJ ('Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State' Vladimir Lenin1945 pamphlet)
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To: McGruff

Wood stove with 12 full cords of hickory for winter cold and a deep storm shelter for beating summer heat. Bed tanks an large capacity OEM replacement fuel tanks for the trucks put about 150 gallons of fuel in each. We keep a few Co2 60” tanks with a dry ice maker in the shop to keep the food in our chest type freezer from going bad. A whole house emergency generator plumbed to a propane farm tank will do for power if really needed.

Add about 12 months of stored food, a windmill for water if house well dies.

..... Unless an EMP event we’re pretty “amish analog” around here for basic needs.


55 posted on 11/21/2014 3:11:16 AM PST by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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