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Most Legalized Illegals Will Have No Net Income-Tax Liabilities
The National Review's The Corner ^ | November 20, 2014 | Avik Roy

Posted on 11/20/2014 9:24:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama says that his executive order will ensure that currently illegal immigrants will have to “pay their fair share of taxes.” But the vast majority of undocumented aliens don’t make enough in income to have a net income-tax liability. As I note in Forbes, a 2006 analysis by the Century Foundation, a progressive think tank, concludes that “we can be virtually certain that illegal immigrants earned less than $24,000 per year, on average, probably much less.” That amounts to around $29,000 in 2014 dollars, well below the threshold where an American has a net income-tax liability.

Legalizing this population is unlikely to result in significantly higher payroll-tax revenue, because many illegals have fake Social Security numbers that their employers use to pay payroll taxes on their behalf. Century estimates that “about $6 billion in annual payroll taxes are allocated to non-existent Social Security accounts. . . . This sum is certainly more than any income taxes that would be owed on the earnings involved.”

Century concludes that “it is likely that the undocumented workers will end up receiving rather than paying the Treasury money.” (Emphasis in the original.)


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: amnesty; economy; obama; taxes
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To: GeronL

Vote republican and they will increase taxes too.


21 posted on 11/20/2014 10:33:15 PM PST by RginTN
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To: kevao

Yea right. In Oak Ridge, Tennessee a couple years ago {before I stopped shopping there} they drove around in shinny new Yukons and could be seen in line at any Western Union wiring money to good old Mexico on payday and buy their nightly beer. Average wage for legal unskilled labor around here is $10 hr. If they get hired at $7-$8hr tax free and get free housing and Food Stamps etc on a stollen SSN how much further ahead does that put them? Considerably ahead. They aren’t the just barely scraping by “victims” the liberals want people to believe. They are THIEVES.


22 posted on 11/20/2014 10:44:10 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: laplata
EIC otherwise known as "redistribution of wealth"-and now we've added 5 million more people to collect it-Yaye!

If they were honest, they'd call it NEIC (Not Earned Income Credit).

23 posted on 11/20/2014 10:57:30 PM PST by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: RginTN
illegals get paid in cash

Exactly. They know how to play the game.

24 posted on 11/20/2014 11:02:32 PM PST by KittyKares (.)
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To: American in Israel

About the only taxes they pay are FICA payments on their payroll at the chicken plan against their fake Social Security numbers. They claim enough dependents so that there are no federal or state taxes taken out.

The SSA? They note which fake account number and/or stolen number it is claimed against so that the real owner’s can’t take advantage of the increased payments to SS when they retire. Later, when the Democrats make them legal and they demand credit, they will be issued new numbers and accounts with credits for the past payments they’ve made.

The financial and sociological devastation that is coming with these illegals is going to be biblical.


25 posted on 11/21/2014 1:15:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: laplata

I hope not. I don’t know if these illegals would be considered resident aliens or not. In the end, Obama’s IRS would make that call, unless Congress specifically forbids it by law.

Rules for every taxpayer for EITC:
•Must have earned income, such as wages, tips or the income from running a business or farm. Most other types of income, such as retirement pensions, though usually taxable, do not count as earned income;
•Must have a Social Security number that is valid for employment for self, spouse and any qualifying children;
•A person can get the credit even with a small amount of investment income, such as interest from a bank account. However, the amount of investment income is limited to $3,300;
•The filing status used must be single, head of household, married filing jointly or qualifying widow or widower. A taxpayer who files as married filing separately cannot get the credit;
•Generally, must be either a U.S. citizen or resident alien;
•Cannot be a qualifying child of another person;
•Cannot file Form 2555 or Form 2555-EZ. These forms are used to claim the foreign earned income exclusion, a tax benefit for Americans who live and work abroad.


26 posted on 11/21/2014 1:20:40 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A very healthy fraction of the illegal population work in the underground economy. Their earnings, whether above or below board, have a far less impact on our economy because a large chunk of their earnings are sent back to their native countries.


27 posted on 11/21/2014 1:46:22 AM PST by monocle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“it is likely that the undocumented workers will end up receiving rather than paying the Treasury money.”

Absolutely true! Those that bother to report income will typically be females doing so in order to receive Earned Income Credit from the IRS (assuming they qualify). The vast majority of males will continue to work in the "Underground Economy"! Democrats get their cheap votes..., Republicans get their cheap labor..., the average American gets screwed (as usual).

28 posted on 11/21/2014 2:45:01 AM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Absolutely.


29 posted on 11/21/2014 2:49:37 AM PST by waxer1 (A Republic if you can keep it--Benjamin Franklin. Well we lost it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They were NEVER going to pay “back taxes”, since they don’t have reported income, and they were never going to pay “fines” for the same reason.


30 posted on 11/21/2014 4:22:47 AM PST by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These lawbreakers want the s.s.# to get welfare, not to report any of their off the books income.


31 posted on 11/21/2014 4:23:54 AM PST by petercooper (Liberalism = Amnesty = Open Borders = Illegal Immigration = Ebola = Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Note the 2 leftmost columns: EITC (Earned Income Tax Credit) & ACTC (Additional Child Tax Credit) OR direct payments to non-taxpayers from taxpayer.

Note the percentages and nationalities at the top of the list by nationality and the breakdowns lower on the page under "All Immigrants" and "All Natives".

Be aware that the percentage NOT using EITC or ACTC include those households where no one worked or they worked of the books.

SO MUCH FOR THE LIE THAT AMNESTY WILL BE GOOD FOR THE U.S. ECONOMY!

32 posted on 11/21/2014 4:51:11 AM PST by drpix
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The illegals I stood behind at Lowes the other day had a few thousand in cash in his wallet. I am not going to hold my breathe that he is going to contribute to the general well-being.


33 posted on 11/21/2014 7:01:40 AM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Gaffer

Thanks for all the info.


34 posted on 11/21/2014 7:15:02 AM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Pajamajan

I think that 5 million is just the beginning. There will be a flood of new people coming through.

Yesterday on Fox a former State Dept. attorney said Obola will sign more EO’s in the days and months to come.


35 posted on 11/21/2014 7:18:53 AM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

It sure is...


36 posted on 11/21/2014 8:24:20 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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To: DoughtyOne

And we can add “Reconquista”.

Los Gringos son estupidos.


37 posted on 11/21/2014 8:36:33 AM PST by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Exactly.


38 posted on 11/21/2014 8:58:03 AM PST by DoughtyOne (The mid-term elections were perfect for him. Now Obama can really lead from behind.)
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