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Vanity - Don’t Governors Have Executive Powers As Well?

Posted on 11/21/2014 9:43:50 AM PST by KrabKlaw

There are soon to be thirty-five Republican governors. What prevents them from exercising Prosecutorial Discretion and simply ignore Obama’s executive order?


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1 posted on 11/21/2014 9:43:50 AM PST by KrabKlaw
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Perhaps because immigration enforcement is a Federal prerogative. I believe that Arizona tried a legislative approach along these lines just a few years ago and were slapped down by the courts.


2 posted on 11/21/2014 9:46:15 AM PST by bagman
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Are you saying Govs could deport illegals?


3 posted on 11/21/2014 9:46:19 AM PST by RWGinger
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Excellent idea!

What Governors should do is say they won’t honor those newly issued work permits in their state.

“It’s easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission.”
- Rear Admiral Grace Hopper


4 posted on 11/21/2014 9:46:36 AM PST by Kenny (,)
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Exactly time to bring back Federalism-the only problem is that work visas ARE issued by the Federal Govt.


5 posted on 11/21/2014 9:47:15 AM PST by JSDude1
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To: bagman
Immigration enforcement is the perview of congress, per the constitution. The president has no executive power in this area.

But if he is going to go ahead and act like he does, why shouldn't Republican governors do the same? Whats good for the goose(stepper) is good for the gander.

6 posted on 11/21/2014 9:49:05 AM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: JSDude1

Provided that the work permits have an “issue date” on them, the governors could simply state that any permit issued after a certain date will not be honored. Unfortunately this would affect people here legally as well. But you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.


7 posted on 11/21/2014 9:52:24 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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Is there any way that a State could shut down/ stop the issuance of green cards in their State? If so there might be a way to stop this before it gets started. Oh and by the way, the employees could refuse to obey an illegal order and not issue them. Put their names on the internet if they choose to issue the permits and let their friends and neighbors tell them what they think of them.
8 posted on 11/21/2014 9:53:01 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Immigration enforcement is the perview of congress, per the constitution. The president has no executive power in this area.

One political caveat to this thought. The Congress has authority over immigration, but the State Department has power over visas. This is where BHO's grey area rests. He can authorize the DOS to authorize worker visas en masse, which is what I believe he has done. This may be why some argue that his actions are legal. IMHO, the illegality is in authorizing a visa for those that have broken law, which he does not have the authority to do.

Constitutional crisis on the horizon.

9 posted on 11/21/2014 9:54:47 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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35 = over the 3/4 threshold? or do we need one more? Or is it 2/3rds needed? (Can’t remember and got coat on, out the door to app’t)

if 2/3rds - we’ll be there.


10 posted on 11/21/2014 9:56:13 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does 35 years ago, hen my daughter - by their fruits)
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The states have only as much power as the feds SAY they have.


11 posted on 11/21/2014 9:58:35 AM PST by thorvaldr
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Nobody is going to do a damn thing.

Except for the hordes heading north to our border right now.


12 posted on 11/21/2014 10:02:32 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Life is good.)
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Immigration enforcement is a federal responsibility. However, the state has authority as well.

California has established itself as a sanctuary state.


13 posted on 11/21/2014 10:06:07 AM PST by KrabKlaw
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Since Obama has violated the constitution, governors have the power and duty to arrest federal agents and workers who are working in their state under the 10th amendment.


14 posted on 11/21/2014 10:10:27 AM PST by DownInFlames
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US Constitution, Art 10, clause 3: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

If this is not an invasion and/or imminent Danger, what is?

15 posted on 11/21/2014 10:13:48 AM PST by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Immigration enforcement is the perview of congress, per the constitution.

And that's the problem — this isn't in immigration issue, it's an invasion issue.

16 posted on 11/21/2014 10:14:29 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: RWGinger

If I was governor I’d deport them from the state to Washington DC.

Let the feds take care of the problem they created, don’t dump them on my state to take care of.


17 posted on 11/21/2014 10:14:39 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: bagman
I believe that Arizona tried a legislative approach along these lines just a few years ago and were slapped down by the courts.

Perhaps it's time for the states to test the waters of disobedience to the imperial federal government.

18 posted on 11/21/2014 10:16:18 AM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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To: KrabKlaw; LucyT; azishot

I’m no lawyer.

If I were governor, I’d announce that 0b0z0’s EO’s are null and void in my state. Any punishment to my state would be met by my EO’s retaliating against the Feds.

No federal money to my state, sure, no Fed taxes collection from my state, period.

Same courts who agree with his EO’s will have to agree with mine!


19 posted on 11/21/2014 10:18:38 AM PST by melancholy
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All the states that take issue with Obama’s executive amnesty, should come to a reciprocity agreement that illegals captured in one state’s territory could be transported through the “friendly states” to the other side of the Mexican border.

It’s time for the states to begin pushing the envelope.


20 posted on 11/21/2014 10:18:43 AM PST by ScottinVA (We either destroy ISIS there... or fight them here. Pick one, America.)
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