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Fort Carson troops will soon deploy, 'supporting Ukraine'
gazette.com ^ | November 27, 2014 | Tom Roeder

Posted on 11/28/2014 7:38:57 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe

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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don’t f****** tell me about “our American soldiers” you mook. I WAS one of our American soldiers, crazy man.

Doesn't mean your judgment is that great. I still remember you brow beating people to vote for Mittens. So if Mittens runs again and wins the nomination, you still going to vote for him no matter what? And did you think Mittens was going to beat Obama the last time?

As for the NWO stuff. You should be more concerned about Moscow and the Communist agents in the West than about some fictional Illuminati elite that secretly wants to topple the "conservative" government of Communists, thieves and rapists in Russia.

21 posted on 11/28/2014 8:42:06 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
"I still remember you brow beating people to vote for Mittens..."

Your "born-on date" is February 25, 2013, the election was held on November 6, 2012. So how do you "remember" me "browbeating" people to vote for Romney (which I never did, by-the way) if you weren't here? Or are you admitting that you're a retread? I already got rid of one of those today, you want to be my second?

22 posted on 11/28/2014 8:49:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Morpheus2009

The most damaging factor in the decline and fall of the Roman Empire was the ever increasing centralization in the ownership and control of the economy and its assets in the hands of the Emperor and Emperor’s henchmen. Like all totalitarian forms of government, they proved to be incapable of running the economy in a competent fashion. When catastrophes struck, the badly damaged economy lacked the resilience to adapt to the resulting disasters, which in turn led to an economic and competent capability to deploy and command effective armed force.


23 posted on 11/28/2014 9:02:47 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Liaison

Did one of those a long time ago. Got my Reforger rebounder certificate and a little frostbite from “romping” around Grafenwoehr in the winter. Cold as Syracuse, NY in the winter.


24 posted on 11/28/2014 9:09:33 PM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I have to wonder with this “Commander in Chief”. Didn’t we have some people killed in Libya without a response?


25 posted on 11/28/2014 9:10:12 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: Tailgunner Joe

This is good news.


26 posted on 11/28/2014 9:13:00 PM PST by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe he’s really a 90 year old tailgunner ;-)


27 posted on 11/28/2014 9:13:17 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Vermont Lt

There was another article about some tanks being sent over. My thinking is send the HQ and then one of the BCT shortly there after. Got a pretty good idea of which BCT would be going but not going to mention it publicly till announced.


28 posted on 11/28/2014 9:22:25 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: Vermont Lt

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/26498/2/
USA To Deploy 150 Tanks near Russian Border

Probably to Poland or Germany, but not to the Ukraine.


29 posted on 11/28/2014 9:25:28 PM PST by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA

Right the tanks aren’t for Ukraine, but we did just have a military exercise inside of Ukraine in the last couple of months or so.


30 posted on 11/28/2014 9:36:26 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ClayinVA

more than a symbolic presence. but not enough to deter Putin. we would need to demonstrate that we will take on
his forces in combat in order for Put to be deterred and so far we do not seem to be in that position. no more kasernes full of 3AD/1AD/8ID soldiers in the Rhine Valley as we had during the cold war. exactly what is expected of the crews of these tanks? a death ride? its a major step for us to be in Russia’s face like this, and I don’t see how we back this play, should it not necessarily work out to our advantage.


31 posted on 11/28/2014 10:06:26 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Not a speedbump, a tripwire. If the Bear kills American soldiers, then he will awaken the Sleeping Giant, and the Giant will stomp the Bear into a bloody pulp.

That's the most pathetic statement I've ever read about a morally decrepit, criminally-led, bankrupt and leaderless country lighting a match in a powderkeg that's none of its business. My boy went to fight 'the good war', saw all his buddies killed by ROE, got spit on when he came back and metaphorically sodomized by the very organization that's supposed to support him and returning veterans.

There is absolutely no justification for supporting the militaristic saber-rattling of a discredited leadership & party with 2 more years of this crap to go. I swear sometimes it reads like a Bama-cheerleader chorus line around here every time they hit the war-gong. EVERYTHING this administration does is with an agenda and designed to manipulate. It is absolutely reckless to suggest 'crafting a war' makes it worth fighting & dying for. There is no Casus belli here. All a new war or terrorist attack will do is further erode the Constitution and my rights. I resent that notion. Particularly when it's invented. It's only made worse by justifying the spilling of US blood for this 'crusade'.

If there will be blood, it will be on the hands of those that support the machinations of this pathetic administration.

32 posted on 11/28/2014 11:45:15 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: logi_cal869

Nice try. Good luck convincing anyone with a brain that Barack Hussein Obama is actually running this nation and making military decisions. Soon Obama will be a bad memory thanks to the Founders and the Constitution. How will you try to convince Americans to support our enemies against our own nation then?


33 posted on 11/29/2014 12:01:48 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Neither country would have the cash to do that.

It would break our backs financially.


34 posted on 11/29/2014 2:09:22 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
U.S. Army divisions are not nearly as big as they use to be 10 years ago. Most have been deactivated, broken up, or downsized into "Brigade Combat Teams." If a single U.S. division tried to go toe-to-toe with a Rooski division today, it would get steamrolled.

Military "transformation" and all that.

35 posted on 11/29/2014 3:35:55 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
and the Giant will stomp the Bear into a bloody pulp.

With what? The U.S. military is broken almost beyond repair, and can barely fight in Iraq and Afghanistan anymore, much less in Eastern Europe against the Russians.

36 posted on 11/29/2014 3:42:34 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These chestbeaters who still live in 1986 are pathetic.


37 posted on 11/29/2014 3:43:33 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Excellent point. Many of those pushing these conspiracy theories turn a blind eye to the corruption in Russia, right now, or it is Russia Today, which is sourced in Russia anyways. Sorry if I misread. There’s just numerous parallels between the decay of America and the decay of Rome that are happening right now. I realize even more that Obama’s weak response of barking at Russia is making us appear even more absurd.


38 posted on 11/29/2014 4:14:34 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Timber Rattler

Not to mention, the drones are only really meant for hitting people with no Air Force and no air defenses.


39 posted on 11/29/2014 4:15:47 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: logi_cal869

Sorry to hear about your son, regardless of which conflict he returned to. Veterans deserve respect and deserve recognition for who they are: Richard, Jake, Jane, Tom, etc.


40 posted on 11/29/2014 4:18:25 AM PST by Morpheus2009
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