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Retirement Warrants Intense Research To Find The Right Place To Settle
Tampa BayTimes ^ | November 30, 2014

Posted on 12/01/2014 6:21:06 AM PST by Iron Munro

More than 10 years ago, Barbara Zierten and her husband retired to a small town in California's scenic "gold country," in the Sierra Nevada foothills.

"It's beautiful here," said Zierten, 73, explaining the attraction of the area east of San Francisco. They also were on a tight budget and reasoned that a small town would be cheaper.

But as time has passed, they have decided the area isn't an ideal fit. For one thing, the library is open only part time. "I'm a reader," she said. "So it's frustrating." And a bad experience with a hospital has led her to seek treatment for health concerns in San Francisco, a two- to three-hour drive away.

Perhaps most dispiriting to Zierten, a liberal who closely follows politics, is that the population's views tend to be much more conservative than her own. Particularly irksome is one resident who often puts up large signs critical of Barack Obama: "The latest said, 'President Ebola.' "

"I didn't do my research," she conceded. The couple is now contemplating relocation to Sacramento.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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To: alexander_busek

Those would be half my neighbors here in Southern AZ.


41 posted on 12/01/2014 8:15:01 AM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: wbarmy
Just look at the author’s selection of pictures to support his point. Nothing about the area, but about the evil conservatives who are destroying this couples life.

Points out a general difference we often see between liberals and conservatives.

Liberals, generally support big government micro-controls in every aspect of life and really are not comfortable with diversity of thought.

These two cannot even abide living in an area where there is a conservative down the road who exercises his first amendment rights.

Most conservatives I know have a live and let live respect for individual freedom.

Many live with strong viewed liberals nearby and just laugh at their idiocy and peccadilloes, but would not dream of letting the presence of a liberal drive them from their home.


42 posted on 12/01/2014 8:15:04 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: lulu16

I agree about the denizens of Southern Arizona - TUSD, Pima County Board of Supervisors, Tucson City Council, the Arizona Daily Star etc. etc.
However we may get a solid Congresswoman to represent us.


43 posted on 12/01/2014 8:20:27 AM PST by conservativehistorian (civilizational suicide continues)
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To: traderrob6
One problem with this strategy is that kids often move. We know several couples who moved after retirement to be near their daughters and the grandkids. Then, the son-in-law gets an attractive job offer in another state and off go the daughter with her husband and children.
44 posted on 12/01/2014 8:22:36 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: Savage Beast
"Liberals" think that they are liberal, open minded, and tolerant and that they embrace "diversity".

All American liberals heartily embrace diversity

They just can't stand us right wing knuckle-draggers who don't think like them.


45 posted on 12/01/2014 8:22:52 AM PST by Iron Munro (D.H.S. has the same headcount as the US Marine Corps with twice the budget)
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To: Iron Munro

Translation: I need to live where everyone follows the prescribed narratives.


46 posted on 12/01/2014 8:23:47 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: pugmama

Minus the crime, Greenville is a very good choice.


47 posted on 12/01/2014 8:25:07 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: riverdawg

Always a risk.


48 posted on 12/01/2014 8:25:24 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: conservativehistorian

I was thinking that after the last recount ( it is this week), I should post a meet and greet for Freepers in the Tucson area. We always seem to be at the center of the storm.


49 posted on 12/01/2014 8:26:12 AM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: O6ret

“.living in PA now but actively looking in & around the Raleigh area.”

As a native North Carolinian....no. Not even close to being a good choice.
Winston-Salem/Greensboro, Asheville, Wilmington, maybe. But never Raleigh.


50 posted on 12/01/2014 8:27:56 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

She probably voted for him because of his melanin too! LOL


51 posted on 12/01/2014 8:28:27 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: O6ret
actively looking in & around the Raleigh area.

You need to spend some time there before you make your decision. That area of NC is very liberal. Plus the crime rate in Raleigh/Durham area is significant. Other parts of NC are more conservative and SC may have a lower cost of living.

You can take I-81 down toward the middle of the state where there is excellent healthcare and an international airport.

52 posted on 12/01/2014 8:35:37 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Iron Munro
Perhaps most dispiriting to Zierten, a liberal who closely follows politics, is that the population's views tend to be much more conservative than her own.

Speaking personally, it's getting rather tiresome to find more and more Liberal Democrats moving into this little town here in Gold Country. They move here for the looks and feel of the area, then immediately try to change everything to be just like where they moved from.

Kind of like the illegals do, now I think about it...

From the looks of it, the ratio of liberals to conservative here locally is rising, and it's getting rather worrisome. It's to the point now that I am reluctant to post any (more) anti-obola or no-gore-hillary signs because it might inflame the tolerant lefties more. Never know which one of the new neighbors might decide that they can't tolerate a non-Liberal position.

53 posted on 12/01/2014 8:35:51 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzlims trying to kill them-)
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To: Iron Munro
The couple is now contemplating relocation to Sacramento.

If you're on a tight budget then what the hell are you doing in California to begin with?

54 posted on 12/01/2014 8:39:30 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Iron Munro

I’m still far off from retirment... but have started looking at places to live so that I will have extra money to travel etc. I have friends who are keeping a small apt in the US...but have moved to Cuenco, Equador and bought a beautiful home. I’m inclined to look internationally as well...the only crappy thing is the US likes to tax your income even if you’re living abroad.


55 posted on 12/01/2014 8:40:28 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: Hulka

Admittedly all retiree circumstances are different but the idea of moving to that perfect retirement place seems to be an important part of the post-work scenario. For me, having my kids/grandkids close, some meaningful work to do, old friends to see and good degree of financial security (meaning no debt) beats moving to that idyllic retirement place in the sun every time. There is no perfect place.


56 posted on 12/01/2014 8:41:28 AM PST by yetidog
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To: lulu16

This group has a lot of very good and relevant information on many countries.

http://www.kathleenpeddicord.com/best-places-to-retire/uruguay/


57 posted on 12/01/2014 8:42:08 AM PST by pugmama
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To: ViLaLuz
What areas do you guys consider as good retirement Freepertowns?

That depends on your inner core re likes and dislikes.

If your sons and/or daughters have a good relationship and you love your grandkids and vice versa. You need to be close but not too close. We live an hour away, and that works out. We see other grandparents, who have moved to be in the same city as the grand kids, becoming full time baby sitting grand parents and drivers for the kids. Some are happy with that, and many are tired/worn out and basically unappreciated by the parents and often the grand kids.

Our church is our social core, and we need a good active/friendly church that is based on the bible not a liberal or some off the wall church that instead of charging you up after a service, depresses you.

Weather is very important to us. We like to do outdoor activities and do not want to live an area requiring AC from May to Nov, and heating from Nov to May. We lived in tornado areas, while growing up, and we don't want that again. So we take our every 15 to 25 year earthquake.e love the ocean, walking on ocean beaches, kayaking in bays and fishing. Yet we don't want to live in a tourist town on the beach. So our one hour drive to the beach works out great. Two decades ago, I got an excellent early retirement, and the property values in our area were excellent. Selling our home would have been easy, and we could buy in most areas we were interested in.

Our adult children lived in Oregon and loved it. I fly fished and hunted, an my wife like to go along to be in the outdoors. So, Oregon seemed like a good fit, and we thought about the Portland area suburbs, about an hour away. Fortunately, one of our sons warned us about the weather re the rain and winter from the end of October to about June. He, also, warned us about the left wing political situation. He gave us a 3 month subscription to the Oregonian Newspaper. Before the 3 months were up, we knew that the Portland area was too liberal for us.

Then, we checked out the Medford and Brookings areas. The areas were conservative and in beautiful areas. Again, after reading the local newspapers, it was evident that the Oregon left wing tax suckers took money from the good people in those counties to spend it in left wing hell holes up north. It didn't take a rocket scientist to see that in 10 years or less, conservative counties/cities in S. Oregon would stretched thin re police and keeping up the infrastructure. That has happened in spades.

Southern Oregonians and Northern Californians are again seriously looking at seceding and forming the State of Jefferson to control their future and not be the tax slaves for the liberals controlling the two states. In the meantime, the weather and high income taxes in Oregon took their tool on our Oregon off spring. They now live 1 hour away and 30 minutes away..

If weather is critical, visit a potential retirement place in the middle of summer and again in the middle of winter. Doing that eliminated other options. One season might be great and the other miserable. I got to do this for free and got paid. After retirement, I did consulting and basically got to pick my one week sites of work. That eliminated Arizona, Nevada, Floriduh, the beautiful shoretown of SC, and the Peninsula of Washington.

So we decided to stay where we live, with a great climate, a church we love and our core of friends, most are from that church. We avoid contact with liberals.

58 posted on 12/01/2014 8:43:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (The Democrats, who run America are too old, too rich, and too very/very white elitist losers!.)
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To: pugmama

I think she was the one who gave us the initial idea. We also subscribe to the paper magazine ( I know, must have the difference) International Living.

I think for us was watching the show House Hunters International a few years back that got us started.


59 posted on 12/01/2014 8:44:44 AM PST by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: The Great RJ
The cons...big extremes in weather and rather isolated

Con?!? :-)

60 posted on 12/01/2014 9:04:01 AM PST by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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