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Are We Missing the Big Picture on Climate Change?
New York Times ^ | December 2, 2014 | By REBECCA SOLNIT

Posted on 12/02/2014 3:04:23 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

... To grasp climate change, you have to think in terms of species and their future. To know how things have already changed, you have to remember how they used to be, and so you may not notice birds disappearing from the skies, or hotter weather or more extreme storms and forest fires. You need to look past the sparrow and see the whole system that allows — or allowed — the birds to flourish. The swallows, the chinook salmon, desert tortoises, manatees, moose and us. Addressing climate means fixing the way we produce energy. But maybe it also means addressing the problems with the way we produce stories.

Over all, climate change tends to be reported as abstract explanations about general tendencies and possible outcomes. It’s a difficult subject to tell and to take in. The scientific side is complicated. Understanding it requires the ultimate in systems thinking: the cumulative effect of all of us burning coal and oil impacts things far away and yet to come. A lot of it is hard to see.

Climate change is everything, a story and a calamity bigger than any other. It’s the whole planet for the whole foreseeable future, the entire atmosphere, all the oceans, the poles; it’s weather and crop failure and famine and tropical diseases heading north and desertification and the uncertain fate of a great majority of species on earth.

And so we should seek out new kinds of stories — stories that make us more alarmed about our conventional energy sources than the alternatives.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climate; globalwarming; hoax; marxism; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Take a lie, make it big enough, repeat it often enough and people will believe it.”- Dr. Goebbels NAZI Propaganda Minister


21 posted on 12/02/2014 3:22:26 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Charles Manson, the notorious cult leader, has broken a 20-year silence in an interview from his prison cell to warn the world of an impending apocalypse due to global warming.

[snip]

“Everyone’s God and if we don’t wake up to that there’s going to be no weather because our polar caps are melting because we’re doing bad things to the atmosphere,” he said.

“The automobiles and fossil fuels are destroying the atmosphere and we won’t have air to breathe.


22 posted on 12/02/2014 3:22:37 PM PST by etl lll
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox

Can someone ‘splain what is this “mansplaining”?


23 posted on 12/02/2014 3:23:06 PM PST by citizen (Hopefully, the MSM will again be making a big deal of high gas prices come Jan 20, 2017.)
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To: Ted Grant

Flying dinosaurs do still exist! We just give them a shorter name.

“Birds”


24 posted on 12/02/2014 3:23:49 PM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Wot a load of cobbler's...

This feckless article full of sound and fury signifying nothing needs a rewrite!

... To grasp climate change, you have to STOP thinkING. To know how things have already changed, you have to remember how they used to be, and so you may not notice birds disappearing from the skies, or hotter weather or more extreme storms and forest fires.BECAUSE NONE OF THOSE THINGS WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE YOU DRIVE YOUR CAR TO WORK.

You need to look past the sparrow and see the whole system that allows — or allowed — the birds to flourish.DITTUM DATTUM WATTUM CHOO. The swallows, the chinook salmon, desert tortoises, manatees, moose and us. GOO GOO GAH JUBE. MARSEY DOTES AN DOSEY DOTES.

Addressing climate means fixing the way we produce energy.I AM THE EGGMAN. But maybe it also means addressing the problems with the way we produce stories. STORIES!!!!-—OF COURSE—BECAUSE THE TRUTH DOES NOT RESIDE IN A TALE TELLER THAT BELIEVES IN MAN-MADE GLOBAL WARMING!

Over all, climate change tends to be reported as abstract explanations about general tendencies and possible outcomes. BECAUSE THERE ARE NO FACTS OR SCIENCE TO BACK ANY OF IT UP. ONLY NONSENSICAL ASSUMPTIONS LEADING TO AN OUTCOME THAT MAKES GOVERNMENT SUPREMACISTS SQUEAL WITH DELIGHT. It’s a difficult subject to tell and to take in. The scientific side is complicated. NOT COMPLICATED, JUST AGAINST THE STORY-TELLER'S SOCIALIST AGENDA. IT'S COMPLICATED WHEN YOU TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO BELIEVE YOUR LIES IN ORDER TO GIVE THE GOVERNMENT EVEN MORE CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE. Understanding it requires the ultimate in systems thinking: the cumulative effect of all of us burning coal and oil impacts things far away and yet to come. A lot of it is hard to see. IT'S VERY VERY HARD TO SEE BECAUSE AGW DOESN'T EXIST!....MUCH IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES WERE HARD TO SEE.

Climate change is everything, a story (YES-A STORY) and a calamity bigger than any other. It’s the whole planet for the whole foreseeable future, the entire atmosphere, all the oceans, the poles; it’s weather and crop failure and famine and tropical diseases heading north and desertification and the uncertain fate of a great majority of species on earth. (CUE THE R.E.M. SONG)

And so we should seek out new kinds of stories — stories that make us more alarmed about our conventional energy sources than the alternatives. STORIES THAT ARE MORE PHONY AND SO LUDICROUS THAT THEY WRAP AROUND AND BECOME BELIEVABLE. THIS IS WHAT THE CLIMATE ALARMISTS ARE HOPING FOR, THE BELIEF OF THE BIG LIE. SAME CONCEPT THAT ANOTHER BIG GOVERNMENT ADVOCATE CAME UP WITH ABOUT 70 YEARS AGO IN GERMANY.

There. Fixed it.

25 posted on 12/02/2014 3:24:34 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Author:

Her Bio:

Strangely, in her background as a messed up high schooler from Novato to her yawn inspiring Journalism degree, to her insipid hippy "environmentalism", I find no background in any of the disciplines I would associate with predictive Meteorology - Computational Fluid Dynamics, Atmospheric Sciences, not even basic Statistics.

Nope. She resorts to a plea for Animism and primitive fear mongering to resolve a problem which she can't even define.

But...she has a soulful Feeling for it and wants us to conjure that feeling with...the Birds.

Chance the Gardener with her mind in the clouds.

26 posted on 12/02/2014 3:25:00 PM PST by Regulator
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“There’s no science to support Anthropogenic Global Warming, so we need you to make up some oral history.”


27 posted on 12/02/2014 3:25:50 PM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Argus

That’s racist... ;)


28 posted on 12/02/2014 3:25:50 PM PST by Track9
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To: WayneS

*And so we should seek out new kinds of stories — stories that make us more alarmed about our conventional energy sources than the alternatives
Didn’t even CONSIDER writing stories that tell the truth, did you? *

“WHAT THE GOVERNMENT TELLS YOU IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT OLD FASHIONED CONCEPT CALLED TRUTH”

I saw that painted by a pig on the side of a barn somewhere. I think it was in Washington DC...


29 posted on 12/02/2014 3:27:31 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Charlemagne on the Fox
*Check out the “writer’s” Wikipedia page. A real treat. (You’ll be pleased to know she is the source of the term “mansplaining”.)*

Mansplaining? I thought that was what Ricky Ricardo did...

30 posted on 12/02/2014 3:28:45 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

A sermon on the mountain of BS that is the religion of left.
Oh, save us great god of goverment solutions, even if those solutions makes things worse!


31 posted on 12/02/2014 3:29:27 PM PST by right way right (America has embraced the suck of Freedumb.)
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To: etl lll
Global Warming Scientist Charles Manson, if you please!
32 posted on 12/02/2014 3:30:07 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: agere_contra

The person was likely referring to pterosaurs, which actually were not dinosaurs, but rather reptiles.


33 posted on 12/02/2014 3:32:46 PM PST by etl lll
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To: WayneS

OK!! Everybody pay attention!

Lesson for today:

1. The sun is 1,300,000 times as big as the earth.

2. The sun is a ball of fire that controls the climates of all its planets.

3. The earth is one of the sun’s planets.

4. The earth is a speck in comparison to the size of the sun.

5. Inhabitants of the earth are less than specks.

Study Question: How do less-than-specks in congress plan to control the sun?


34 posted on 12/02/2014 3:33:47 PM PST by abclily
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Reading this stuff is like hearing another adult telling me if I dont be good, Santa is going to be here any moment to kick my ass.


35 posted on 12/02/2014 3:34:57 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If climate change is taken out of the global equation, we’d end up with an “unnatural” set of circumstances.

So, let nature take its course.


36 posted on 12/02/2014 3:35:20 PM PST by adorno (a)
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To: Regulator

Chance the Gardener!

Brilliant!

However, Chance was about 100 smarter than her
:—)


37 posted on 12/02/2014 3:35:23 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Have you ever heard a sales presentation from an old-fashioned con-man? This exactly the tool they use, “Put away your conventional reasoning and think of things in a different way.” Their con doesn’t work if people use common sense and take into account the lifetime of knowledge they have learned, so the con-man asks you to start thinking in a different way. That’s what this woman is doing. Anytime someone tells you to “embrace a new paradigm” or “take into account a changing world,” chances are it’s a lie, a fraud, or a con.


38 posted on 12/02/2014 3:35:58 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: VanDeKoik
*Reading this stuff is like hearing another adult telling me if I dont be good, Santa is going to be here any moment to kick my ass.*

Santa causes global warming...

39 posted on 12/02/2014 3:36:44 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Someone should tell the moron that those birds missing from the skies are due to those solar farms frying them and the wind farms chopping them up. The last body count I heard included sixty bald eagles and not a single fine.


40 posted on 12/02/2014 3:37:01 PM PST by chopperman
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