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BREAKING: NYPD Confirms # Eric Garner Was A Member of Organized Crime in Staten Island
gotnews.com ^ | Dec 3, 2012 | Charles C. Johnson

Posted on 12/05/2014 7:38:23 AM PST by Enterprise

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To: Mears

Obama has divided and conquer.


41 posted on 12/05/2014 8:14:54 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: armydawg505

Anyone who resists arrest, even if unarmed should die?

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Should die? Or could die? That’s the question here.

And Garner - just like Michael Brown - ultimately was responsible for that answer.


42 posted on 12/05/2014 8:17:58 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Shimmer1

Should have died. Because he was selling ciggies without the $10 plus per pack demanded by the nanny state?! wow, 2nd.

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Seriously. You know that’s not how or why he died.


43 posted on 12/05/2014 8:19:11 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Enterprise

All the more reason for the Tetrarchs (Obama, Jarrett, Holder, and Sharpton) and the media to obsess over this case.


44 posted on 12/05/2014 8:20:38 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Shimmer1
Nice strawman. If he had complied, he'd still be alive.

Pretty simple, really.

45 posted on 12/05/2014 8:20:41 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: armydawg505

Does the autopsy mean anything to you? He suffered severe neck trauma that only comes from choking. Try reading it before you spout off like that.

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You got a link to that? I’ve bveen reading the coroners report showed NO SIGNS of trauma to the neck. And he died of cardiac arrest.


46 posted on 12/05/2014 8:21:03 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: armydawg505

you need to read it, he died of a heart attack.

I can see the video, he was choked for a total of 15 SECONDS.

ONE SECOND after he said “I can’t breath” the choke hold was released.

You can have an opinion, but you can’t have your own facts!

LINK TO FULL VIDEO HERE:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-xHqf1BVE4

1:39 choke hold is applied
1:46 is taken to the ground (note the arm sticking out starts to spasm *heart attack*)
1:54 says “I can’t breathe for the first time”
1:55 released from choke hold

Garner died later in the ambulance on the way to the hospital of cardiac arrest.

Those are the FACTS.


47 posted on 12/05/2014 8:21:10 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

He shouldn’t have died. When he resisted, the police should have just let him go. /sarc


48 posted on 12/05/2014 8:22:13 AM PST by NCLaw441
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To: Enterprise

Another case of police taking out the trash.


49 posted on 12/05/2014 8:22:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Responsibility2nd

You posted “He should have died.” I assume you post what you mean here. Brutal for sure. Are you a cop? I hope not.


50 posted on 12/05/2014 8:22:41 AM PST by armydawg505
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To: Enterprise

I’m not sure the NYPD has any more credibility on the issue. I also don’t believe the officers involved thought he was connected with the mob when they brought him down.

No choke holds. That simple.

Taze him multiple times, cuff him, and off you go. You don’t have to choke him to subdue him.

This is going to be the tipping point for a lot of folks. Too many dead dogs. Too many raids on homes that didn’t need to be raided. Too many dead people who were just watching TV before SWAT kicked in the door.

Wilson was legit. Guy went out on watch and got extremely unlucky.

What the NYPD did to this guy was so egregious, and the evidence so vivid and clear, that you can’t help thinking the whole thing is rigged against all of us.

If you watch THE ENTIRE video, you will find out that the guy who died was guilty of NOTHING MORE than stopping a fight that happened outside his shop. All the other crap about cigarettes and the mob was stuff they dug up later.

They are screwed here. There is no way politically around this. ‘Pants up, don’t loot’ happened and then this decision in NYC happened right on the heels of it. Timing is everything.


51 posted on 12/05/2014 8:24:18 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

What about head locks, that is legit, is it?


52 posted on 12/05/2014 8:25:53 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I predict this stuff is going to fade. Christmas is around the corner.


53 posted on 12/05/2014 8:26:53 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Enterprise
Another "gentle giant."

Yup. Another Amish one who liked to smack around Asian shop keepers apparently.


54 posted on 12/05/2014 8:28:04 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SoothingDave
".... that is an indication that your taxes are way too high.

Or not high enough where the goods are smuggled from. /devil's advocate.

55 posted on 12/05/2014 8:30:19 AM PST by moehoward
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To: AU72
"In Goodfellas the kids first pinch was selling boosted butts."

It was also a common subplot on the Sopranos.

56 posted on 12/05/2014 8:32:38 AM PST by moehoward
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To: Enterprise

And the jokes just write themselves...


57 posted on 12/05/2014 8:32:41 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: moehoward

Of course they had the good sense to give the cops a piece of the action.


58 posted on 12/05/2014 8:33:08 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: moehoward

That’s why I say, if you think there’s a War on Drugs now, wait until they’re legal and taxable.


59 posted on 12/05/2014 8:34:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Enterprise

1. Charles Johnson and gotnews are about as reliable as MSNBC.

2. The most the NYPD could do is allege that this is true.


60 posted on 12/05/2014 8:35:15 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (I'm done being even remotely civil.)
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