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Rush Is Wrong about Government Shutdowns
National Review ^ | 12/09/2014 | Mona Charen

Posted on 12/09/2014 5:39:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Republicans didn’t shut down the government Obama did it was his way or no way.


61 posted on 12/09/2014 9:08:44 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"Republicans want to shrink government"

Not the RINO leadership (which is still in control); they want to spend just as much as the Demorats.

62 posted on 12/09/2014 9:12:02 AM PST by celmak
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Sadly and begrudgingly, I agree with you and Mona. The partisan media has the low information voter thinking like an idiot. They already have the govvies here in DC whining about Republicans and they have not even taken office yet, for crying out loud. One caveat is that of timing...a shutdown in January for example is much better than a shutdown near an election day.


63 posted on 12/09/2014 9:18:23 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: LS

Polls...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3078203/posts

‘”Who is the biggest obstacle to ending the shutdown?”

44% Obama or Democrats in Congress
42% Republicans in Congress’

No other poll compared peoples views *of the parties*.
All other reported polls ignored people’s views of the Democrat Party.


64 posted on 12/09/2014 9:28:29 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“And we would have won in 2012 if 4 million Republicans hadn’t stayed home.”

I am not so sure. To me, the precinct returns in some key States told a chilling tale of behind the scenes manipulation.


65 posted on 12/09/2014 10:17:28 AM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: Bigg Red
Exactly. Why can’t it be done this way?

Because they don't want to.

66 posted on 12/09/2014 10:18:09 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“What good does kicking the can down the road do if the Republicans are only going to surrender anyway?”

There is no viable path forward for the Republicans to repeal obamacare. There is no viable path forward for the Republicans to undo Obama’s amnesty.

Those advocating government shutdowns are like the Japanese in WWII. Faced with the frustration of their desires, they want to launch hopeless Banzai charges and commit seppuku. It won’t accomplish anything but it is the ‘honorable thing to do’.


67 posted on 12/09/2014 10:52:21 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Principles without power aren't worth spit.)
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To: DugwayDuke
"...a shutdown would only damage the republicans without achieving any worthwhile purpose?"

I don't think the real issue is to shutdown/not shutdown, the issue is what is the GOP going to do to stop the massive amnesty illegally implemented by the feral gov.?

Based upon the actions of boehner/mcconnell the answer is not much.

68 posted on 12/09/2014 10:59:52 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Buckeye McFrog

It would be Obama shutting it down


69 posted on 12/09/2014 11:02:40 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DugwayDuke

Anything from RINOview should be suspect


70 posted on 12/09/2014 11:05:12 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: JRandomFreeper

BUMP


71 posted on 12/09/2014 11:05:45 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

National Review, once stood athwart history yelling “Stop!”... now it cowers behind desks, afraid of liberal media coverage


72 posted on 12/09/2014 11:09:44 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DugwayDuke
There is no viable path forward for the Republicans to repeal obamacare.

What do you consider 'viable'?

They certainly have a path to shut down Obamacare. Now. Not January. What they don't have is the will.

/johnny

73 posted on 12/09/2014 11:10:00 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“viable” like the candidacies of McCain, Dole and Romney I guess


74 posted on 12/09/2014 11:11:33 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL
Yeah. That weasel word 'viable' needs challenged. There is a whole set of assumptions there that I don't agree with.

/johnny

75 posted on 12/09/2014 11:12:58 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

bump


76 posted on 12/09/2014 11:17:51 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DugwayDuke

If the Republicans have no way to repeal O-care and/or reverse the illegal immigration pass of the community organizer, then they have a problem. Because that’s what they were elected to do. Even by the low-info voter.

What do you think they were elected for? Because of their winning personalities?

Joe Sixpack looked at his checking account this last year and realized this free healthcare isn’t so free after all. And then saw the Boy King issue a fiat to 5 million more competitors for his job. Granted that was after the election but it’s now in every mind no matter how dim.

So if they don’t do something about this situation they are going to look like fools, and will pay dearly in 2016. They can’t just push for tax cuts, because even if that would make economic sense the press will paint it as “tax cuts for the rich”. They have to make it look like they are trying SOMETHING about those two issues. Or this will be the last time they are ever in charge of anything.


77 posted on 12/09/2014 11:58:33 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: FourtySeven

abject surrender has never been a winning strategy


78 posted on 12/09/2014 12:00:16 PM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: DugwayDuke

Also when the employer mandate exemption extension that was quietly done this last year expires, and millions more loose their healthcare coverage at work, the low info voters are gonna be looking for someone to blame. And if the Republicans aren’t doing something about that, there will be hell to pay.


79 posted on 12/09/2014 12:01:12 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: GeronL
abject surrender has never been a winning strategy

That's right. Unfortunately that seems to be the only "strategy" the GOP knows these days.

80 posted on 12/09/2014 12:03:19 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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