Pope Francis says all dogs do go to heaven

Today.com ^ | 12/12/2014 | Matt Murray

[Elsie]

I was being sarcastic, and illustrating a common FR Catholic tactic of trying to switch the subject.

[Elsie]

Sounds like the Italian ‘papers’ are just as screwed up as OURS!

[Hulka]

Thanks.

Helps me greatly. . .

[imardmd1]

Thanks for your accurate further treatment of this question. I was afraid that in going into much more deatail in that response, it would have been too long. Taking up the tale is much appreciated.

Here is a further table regarding the localization of the unhappy places (neglecting the grave, and recognizing that Paradise/Abraham's Bosom are supposed to have been joined to the third (God's) Heaven:

" The Chart of the Abyss, Hell, and the Lake of Fire Contrasred"

CHART OF THE ABYSS, HELL, AND THE LAKE OF FIRE CONTRASTED

	THE ABYSS (THE DEEP or BOTTOMLESS PIT)	Háhihdays HELL	THE LAKE OF FIRE
1. Existence 1st stated:	(Gen. 1:2 LXX)	(Job 33:18)	(Rev. 19:20)
2. Duration:	Not known after the Millennium (Rev. 20:3)	Ceases to exist (Rev. 20:14)	Endless (Rev. 20:10)
3. Location:	Deep Outer Space	Heart of Earth	Outside of Earth (Rev.20:15-21:1)
4. Time of Existence:	Until End of Millennium	Until Judgment	After Judgment
5. At the Time of the White Throne Judgment:	No longer mentioned	Cast into Lake of Fire (Rev. 20:14)	Ongoing Forever
6. Occupants:	Fallen (wicked) angels (Lk. 8:31; 2 Pet. 2:4); Apollyon and the Locusts with stings in their tails like Scorpions (Rev. 9:1-3); Satan for 1000 yrs. (Rev. 20:3).	Faithless departed spirits (Lk.16:23).	The Beast (Anti-god) and the False Prophet (Antichrist) (Rev. 19:20); Satan, The Beast (Rev. 11:7; 17:8); Death and Hell (Rev. 20:10,14); All not listed in The Book of Life (v.15).

Here is a link to one diagram illustrating the pit, Paradise, and the grave. The site contains the text giving a verbal key to this diagram:

"The Mystery of Life After Death" (click here)

[Cvengr]

Nice site. Thanks.

I’ve seen Wittman’s chart re: kingdom of heaven vs kingdom of God. I used it as guidance for a few years, but then found some differing perspectives, also well documented in Scripture. I need to give that one some more study.

[NFHale]

“...all dogs do go to heaven...”

Sure hope so. I miss all of my old mutts... every one one of them.

[Mad Dawg]

Evidently the whole story has been misattribution of things nobody ever said but somebody wishes they did. It’s really pretty funny.

We have a friar here, Fr. Scordo, who was a Navy chaplain for 20 years. And he is one of the funniest guys I know. He loves a joke. And I can’t help thinking that PapaFran is a little like that. At the end of the day he sits, in my imagination, with his feet up surfing the net to find out what they’re saying he said — but he never said it — today. And then he laughs with his friends.

[Elsie]

Evidently the whole story has been misattribution of things nobody ever said but somebody wishes they did. It’s really pretty funny.

So true!

But our world today never worries about yelling FIRE!!! in a crowed theater.

"It may not be true; but it's accurate." is the phrase that is uppermost.

[Mad Dawg]

“fake but accurate.” Rathergate. The rape at UVA story.

Despite our differences, I'm sure we share trying to find ways to explain to unbelievers how important the “fact” of the Incarnation is. A friend whom God is slowly, slowly drawing to his bosom asked if we would ever forgive Pilate. This was because the creeds mention that IHS was “crucified under Pontius Pilate.”

I tried to explain that it's not about blaming Pilate. I am at least as responsible as he for the crucifixion. It's about the fact that it happened! Really happened. Pilate was procurator of Judea. We can give the actual even a real range of possible dates.

It's not at all a matter of “fake but accurate,” but of “true and TRUE!”

And on some particular date a child was born “as at this time for us,” who was also God. Not like Vishnu or Osiris, whose stories happen out of time, but when Octavian was Caesar in Rome and Herod was King in Judea.

When they turn their backs on even the possibility of a sweating and bleeding Jesus, soon they find no value in facts at all.

From which may we be protected by the Lord of Love.

[Elsie]

From which may we be protected by the Lord of Love.

AMEN!

[FR_addict]

“Evidently the whole story has been misattribution of things nobody ever said but somebody wishes they did. It’s really pretty funny.”

Dogs go to heaven? Don’t believe it
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/14/opinion/schlumpf-pope-dogs-go-to-heaven-controversy/index.html?hpt=wo_c2

So Francis never said it and here I thought I finally agreed with the Pope on something.

He is and out and out Communist/Socialist if the story below is true:

Pope Francis: Capitalism is “a new tyranny”
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/26/pope_francis_capitalism_is_a_new_tyranny/