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Study Finds All-Electric Cars Aren't Very Green At All
townhall.com ^ | 12/15/2014 | Leah Barkoukis

Posted on 12/16/2014 6:32:44 AM PST by rktman

Electric cars are often touted as the most environmentally friendly vehicles out there, but the devil is always in the details. While charging tends to be the focus of environmental assessments, the entire life cycle of the vehicle needs to be considered.

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LOLOLOLOLOL! They needed a study to figure this out? Man do I wish I had applied for a grant on that one. The only real thing that the ecowackos care about is APPEARING to really, really care about gaia and to prove it they'll drive those electric cars to show how much more enlightened they are than us rubes. Weather happens. Get over it, you ain't gonna control it.
1 posted on 12/16/2014 6:32:44 AM PST by rktman
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Electric cars belong on golf courses hauling fat drunks around, not trying to provide dependable transportation on real roads.


2 posted on 12/16/2014 6:35:14 AM PST by wrench (Ebola is not a threat to the US. 0bama says so, and he would never lie..........)
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No S*** Sherlock! The production/pollution costs of making the batteries alone are a significant offset their ‘greeness’ and the idiots never considered that the power to charge them could NOT be produced by windmills.


3 posted on 12/16/2014 6:37:47 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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All that BS about “alternative” energy sources is — well — BS! They are
NEITHER cost effective NOR environmentally friendly over the long haul. Never
HAVE been. In fact, nearly all those energy forms simply move the often
greater pollution they produce to another area of the country or world and
concentrate it THERE. Hell, let’s just put all those dirty solar collector, pump and pipe plants in — say — Pennsylvania or West Virginia so WE can live that eco-friendly lifestyle HERE! Textbook NIMBY idiocy!
Doesn’t anyone understand that IF we are to have a
technological society based on ENERGY, we’d better produce that energy as
efficiently as we know how? And that is NUCLEAR . I live in Georgia and at a time when places like CA are in the throes of an energy crisis, the 4 or so nukes here have helped keep our electrical costs well within reason.

And IF the national consensus is that we no longer want a tech society, I
have a supply of spears, loin cloths and stone axes for sale for those of
you who want to get ready before the rush.

My wife is still afraid of nuclear (because of the still not completely
solved waste disposal problem WHICH WE CAN AND WILL SOLVE in a satisfactory manner).

We visited one of those salvage/bargain
places over the week-end. After strolling around for a few minutes, she
remarked with disdain that we sure do produce a lot of “junk.” Most of the
“junk” was electrical switchgear and mechanical power transmission stuff. I
replied, “Yes, most of it is the stuff that causes the lights to go on when
you flip the switch.” She got very quiet as it settled on her that without
this “junk,” she’d be washing our clothes on a rock in the river.

SO WILL YOU!

If you haven’t seen “Survivors,” by all means do so. It’s a glimpse into our future if the greenies prevail.

And I hear they’re going to start the rock/river clothes washing thing in California in a few weeks and will let us all know how they like it.


4 posted on 12/16/2014 6:40:42 AM PST by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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LOL! I know. Elon musk and his soon to be “gigafactory” outside of Reno ought to be interesting as far as haz waste is concerned. But it’ll bring some jobs to the area for a while anyway. And, I think a lot of them will be over the much vaunted $15.00/hr too. It’d take me more than 15 minutes to get there so I’m not gonna make the drive. :>}


5 posted on 12/16/2014 6:41:12 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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This “study” is awarded today’s NSS Award (No Sh** Sherlock).


6 posted on 12/16/2014 6:42:49 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Dick Bachert

“And I hear they’re going to start the rock/river clothes washing thing in California in a few weeks and will let us all know how they like it.”

I heard that this was going to be cancelled due to clothing fibers causing asthma in the wittle fishies. :>}


7 posted on 12/16/2014 6:44:40 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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LOL!

I had a wealthy student whose dad boasted to me about his new Tesla. So i went outside to see this nice looking car hooked up to a huge cable to a big box on the outside wall. It was a Charger that had to be specially installed onto the house with it’s own high intensity electric line that uses god-knows-how-much electricity from some source, which, of course, needs to be generated SOMEHOW, be it coal, oil, or nuclear.

Yep...I’m really impressed...NOT!


8 posted on 12/16/2014 6:47:37 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: wrench

I’m not fat!


9 posted on 12/16/2014 6:48:24 AM PST by Fightin Whitey
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Yeah, but it would still be fun to drive this one.
10 posted on 12/16/2014 6:50:44 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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Too many drawbacks with an electric. The hybrid seems a better way to go,but it can pose some expensive problems as well. I don’t think we have near enough generating power for a lot of electric cars,especially with the idiotic decisions coming from the EPA.


11 posted on 12/16/2014 6:56:15 AM PST by oldtech
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It’s always kind of shocking when some liberal “study” meant to take down the coal industry ends up being so warmly received here at FR just because it plays into a perception that “liberals like electric cars, so we’re against them”.

The study essentially says “electric cars are great, except if you hook them up to coal plants, then they are really bad because coal plants are evil”.


12 posted on 12/16/2014 6:57:12 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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This study has been discussed on this FR thread:

Why Your All-Electric Car May Not Be So Green

It really comes down to the source of electricity. Coal and petroleum accounts for only 40% of US generation. The rest is nuclear, renewable, and natural gas.

The continental US grid is interconnected, into 3 sections (East, West, and Texas), but those should be interconnected eventually at Tres Amigas. So, no matter where you are, you would be charging your car, your cell phone, etc. with the mix of generation on your grid.

13 posted on 12/16/2014 7:05:24 AM PST by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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It really ISN’T about “being green”.

It’s about being morally superior and self-righteous for “being green”.

And, with most libs in this category, if you point out the findings of this study to them,
they’ll act as if you personally attacked them,
and deny the findings.


14 posted on 12/16/2014 7:07:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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A map of the North American interconnection grids:

Click on the map for a larger version.

15 posted on 12/16/2014 7:12:25 AM PST by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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” electricity from some source, which, of course, needs to be generated SOMEHOW, be it coal, oil, or nuclear.”

The owner probably thinks it’s power comes from a motor like the one in Atlas Shrugged. Just automatically gets it from static electricity in the air. Pretty magical huh?


16 posted on 12/16/2014 7:23:31 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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To: MrB

LOL! Count the ones outside the W’hole Foods store.


17 posted on 12/16/2014 7:24:58 AM PST by rktman (Served in the Navy to protect the rights of those that want to take some of mine away. Odd, eh?)
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Another No Sh1t, Sherlock moment from the National "Academy" of "Science".
18 posted on 12/16/2014 7:28:52 AM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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magical Thinking is a hallmark of liberals.

It is also considered a symptom of mental illnbess.


19 posted on 12/16/2014 7:29:17 AM PST by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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Ditto for other green energy boondoggles. Corn ethanol has been touted as an alternative to oil, but if you consider the energy needed to plant, harvest and ship the corn to ethanol plants as wells as make the corn into ethanol and ship the ethanol by truck or rail since it can’t be shipped by pipeline it takes more energy to make corn ethanol than you could get from using it as a motor fuel. The whole ethanol business exists solely because of government subsidies and tax credits.


20 posted on 12/16/2014 8:10:24 AM PST by The Great RJ (Pants up...Don't loot!)
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